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Comment by Brian Milne on May 19, 2012 at 17:21

County archivists in Scotland are good. It's a kind of trade. You give them a copy of what you've racked together and they'll give you whatever they thing is relevant.

Comment by Andy McNee on May 19, 2012 at 14:50

Thanks Brian, I gathered I would have to make a trip to the area, I passed through Loch Lomond a few weeks ago on my way to Skye to meet up with my daughters and visited the church where my ancesters were married and christened. I had been there before some years ago and had forgotton the Dukes of Montrose were buried there, they were presumably the ******** who cleared the families from the land resulting in them ending up in Glasgow, America and elsewhere. Rob Roy Mcgregor was an arch enermy of the Montroses, when the name was banned McNee was one of the names taken, lots changed back some didn't, it would be good to be able to trace back to the time when that happened.

Comment by Brian Milne on May 18, 2012 at 9:24

Andy had the same for the first of my father's line for 1775. I took a quick trip up, went asking in Edinburgh, was shunted on to Morayshire who took a couple of hours to send me to the nearest (surviving and operational) parish kirk and I got back another 50 years but ran out of time. The Moray archivist said that under circumstances, records go back as much as another 400 years if there is as much as a grain of status. One day I'll go up there with a camper, scanner and all and see how far I can get back. Then I might have a stab at the other side of the family...

Comment by Andy McNee on May 17, 2012 at 13:28

I have started on my fathers side of the family who originated in Scotland, I found infomation going back to to around 1770 on Scotlands people site but came to a full stop. Has anyone got any ideas how to research further back in time?

Comment by Brian Milne on May 7, 2012 at 21:36

Been trying to fire myself up to look for my box of files. One side of my lot came from just near Dallas. The real one. Who knows where that is? The other side from a few miles further south. I have lots of bits and pieces and software but there is a French connection I never really looked at. No time like the present I guess...

Comment by celeste vogel-dillon on November 14, 2011 at 17:43

Edward another thought have you checked with the Irish college in Paris, a lot of wealthy Irish sent their children to France to be educated.  As at that time you if you were a Catholic you were not allowed to practice your religion and if you did and were caught you were sent as a slave to the cotton and tobacco fields of Bermuda and Jamacia or to Kantucky and Kansas .

later they were sent to Tasmania and Australia as slaves or Indentured workers!!!!

The Irish were the first to be sent as slaves to the West Indies --- it was when they needed more workers and were running out of irish people to send ) they started bringing in slaves from Africa . 

I suggest you try The Irish College , other places they were sent to to be educated were Louvaine, Rheims and funny enough Bordeaux

Comment by celeste vogel-dillon on November 14, 2011 at 17:31

Hi , I was interested to read the comments here,Edward you said you were researching the Wild geese and Irish people who came to France at that time.

 My surname is Dillon  (De dillon ) . I was researching Dillon's Regiment in France, the Irish brigade and came up with a lot of interesting information, There were two regiments origionally under the name of Dillon, one was trained by Theobald Dillon, 7th Viscount Costello-Gallen and the other by his son Count Arthur Dillon. They came over with the Wild Geese.  They had their own flag and uniform and coat of arms. They fought in Nine years war, war of Spanish Succession, war of Austrian Succession and the American Revolutionary war. One was the Governor of St.Kitts and Tobago, and was a member of the States general for Matinique ( I often wondered why there are bottles of rum etc with the name of Dillon , all from the west Indies).

Being of Foreign origin( even though they ( De Leons/Dillons) came over to ireland during the \Norman invasion) they needed to be "reconnus nobles en France", they were acknowledged as being of "Exteaction valeresque"( very old nobility) and were therefore allowed to be given the " honneurs de la Cour" by the KING OF FRANCE .    

Edward if you look up Dillon 's Regiment , it also gives you fantastic information about the Wild Geese .

Also a lot of Hugenots came to ireland to flee persecution in France , do not confuse the North of ireland , with the rest of Ireland .  There was a very strong Protestant population, Hugenot, Quaker and  Jewish population as well as Catholics in Ireland ( all living in peace with one another). They ( hugenots) mainly lived in the Wexford /Waterford ?Cork areas.

and were very good craftsmen. There is quite a lot of hugenot history still preserved  and there are still  Hugenot grave yards , the most famous being that in Dublin .

If you go onto the National Archives of Ireland ( look under Hugenots) they will help you and they have a fantastic national record and be able to point you in the right direction 

Also have a look at the 1911 census records.

Unfortunetely  a lot of records for Dublin were destroyed in the  1916 Rising when the Customs house was set on fire .--- but if you have an idea of the parish name they may be able to help you .

Hope this is of some help

Celeste 

Comment by Simon O'Corra on November 14, 2011 at 16:24

Welcome Carol

Hope you find help and support here

 

Simon

Comment by Carol Ravensdale on November 14, 2011 at 16:17

Hi, I have jut joined this group as I have been putting together my family tree for a number of years now and have also done my husbands.  When we bought our house in Charente Maritime I felt completely at home in the area and am hoping that is where my ancestors came from!! The family name is de Frates (sometimes spelt D'Freytes in documents) and my first recording of this is in 1710 in Rochester, Kent, UK. Francis D'Freytes was a mariner and I think the family may have originated from France or Portugal. Any help would be appreciate. Carol

Comment by Simon O'Corra on October 23, 2011 at 23:39

Edward this is very interesting, my Catherine Byrne married a Faustin Jeffery in Dublin in 1811 and he family always insisted that there was French connection to the family, although ti was said that the Jeffery's were French. Many of the descendants became RC priests or nuns. One descendant became a prominent business man in Paris in the late 18th century. 

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