Speed Camera Blackspots in France (Guest Blog)

There were nearly 13 million speed camera offences in France last year, and newly released information shows just where motorists are being caught.

It was the speed camera installed on the A41 between Annecy and Genève near to Saint-Julien-en-Genevois (Dept 74) which was the most active in the year. The camera is located on a 50km/h speed limit road, just before the Swiss frontier. It flashed an average of 462 times per day, 29 times the national average.

The fine for exceeding the speed limit in a 50 km/h area starts at €135 (although early payment reduces the level of the fine), so this camera alone brought in €22 million in the year.

In second position with 364 flashes per day was the camera situated along the 'Quai du 4 septembre' on the RD1 in the Boulogne-Billancourt district of Paris, where again a 50 km/h speed limit is in force.

The podium was completed by the camera at Bédarrides on the A7 between Lyon and Marseille, which flashed 323 times on average per day.

The figures have been obtained from the French government by the motoring magazine Autoplus.

The departments in France with the highest number of speed camera offences were Essonne, Nord and Val-de-Marne. At the other end of the scale those departments registering the fewest number of offences were Aveyron, Dordogne and Vendée.

Of course, as the figures take no account of the amount of traffic on each of roads, it is not possible to say just how effective is each camera as a percentage of traffic that passed by it.

There are nearly 2000 fixed speed cameras on French roads, an increase of around 100% over the past four years.

Last year total revenues received by the government from speed camera offences was €630 million, of which around €100 million was late payment fines.

In total last year the government obtained €1.7 billion in revenues for traffic offence fines.

The graphic below shows the top 50 most active fixed speed cameras, the speed limit in force, and the number of times it flashed in the year.

David Yeates

http://www.french-property.com/news/

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Comment by John Scully on March 15, 2012 at 23:01

They can't Andy. The police would have to understand the settings for every make of GPS out there. It's hard enough for owners to use the devices with the user guide in hand let alone a poor policeman fumbling on the side of the road to find out if the speed camera warnings are switched on or off. What about cars with built-in devices. Users rarely update these because it is a chore to do so they will still have the (albeit out of date) locations onboard. I think this is more targeted at the dedicated speed trap warning devices not satnavs just as radar detectors were outlawed years ago.

Par contre, Tomtom should not be deleting content from users devices without permission. This is typical of the contempt (and I use that word advisedly) that Tomtom have for their customers. It is my decision whether I turn the warnings off or not, not Tomtom's.

Comment by Andy McNee on March 15, 2012 at 12:37

I don't know how the gendarmes are going to police it, I don't have a tom-tom, I have a Garmin, how are they going to tell at the roadside if your camera warnings are turned off or on?  there are possibly a dozen plus makes and hundreds of models. I had to scroll through 3 or 4 menus to find out how to turn mine off.

Comment by Ian SMITH on March 10, 2012 at 7:39

Correct, Steve, you need to drive at or within the posted limits, and for now there are even signs for the fixed cameras.

I'd be surprised if any of those adjust for the roads being wet.  They'd need a solid definition, and I'm not sure that one exists.

Comment by Steve YATES on March 10, 2012 at 7:36

@Shirley.   The database in his car may not have the right info so he shouldn't be relying on the GPS to decide the speed he drives at.

Did any of the "offences"  take place when it was wet and so the limits were reduced ? (Am not sure whether fixed cameras take rain into account though)

His GPS will be a better indication of his true speed than the speedometer as it's making a real time measurement.

Comment by celeste vogel-dillon on March 7, 2012 at 23:05

AHHH!! Catherine, so true ---- when I see that it really scares me --- what are they thinking about???? -- also kids whose heads are hanging out the back window QUOI?????  I think the parents should be prosecuted for abuse.

   Why are people so bothered about speed traps --- ???? stay within the speed limit --- what is soooooo wrong with that??????

I have seen the end result of boy racers and middle aged racers and it is not pleasant ---- too many paraplegics in rehabilitation --- that should be out enjoying their lives --- when you have to drink your dinner out of a plastic straw -- held by someone else --- when you cannot go to the toilet ,wash yourself , care for yourself ------ NO THANK YOU --- I will stay within the speed limit---

 when you go to funerals of kids in white coffins , young people who should have had their lives to live ---- all for the sake of taking  responsibility when behind the wheel of a car ????? , !!!  that to me is manslaughter !!! Sorry to all of you out there who think speed is good ---- I really feel very strong about this issue

Comment by Paul Hirsh on March 7, 2012 at 21:29
NEW TYPE OF SPEED TRAP USES INFRARED AND DOESN'T FLASH, so the cars following are not warned by seeing the car in front flashed. I received this notice about the Pont d"Aquitaine (on the Bordeaux rocade). The traps are concealed in the security barriers.

Attention depuis ce weekend installation de nouveaux radars infra rouge sur le Pont d'Aquitaine qui prennent sans flash dans les 2 sens de circulation. Ils sont dans les barrières de sécurité des 2 côtés !!!!! faites tourner svp.

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Comment by Catharine Higginson on March 7, 2012 at 19:23

And don't even get me started on parents who have unrestrained toddlers lurching around in the front passenger seat...!!!

Comment by celeste vogel-dillon on March 7, 2012 at 17:11

Having been in a very serious car  accident ,, and having seen the injuries and misery , heartache and  pain it can cause --- it is one of the most horrific things that can happen to anyone -- and their families ----- I am all for speed limits . I am very aware of how i drive But I am also Very aware of others and how they abuse the rules of the road . Often I am overtaken on a windy road by a driver who has been sitting on my tail --- even though i am travelling at the speed limit ---- and at the next junction who is sitting there in front of me only the arrogant driver who passed me on a bend a few minutes before. NO patience!!!!!

Sometimes when there is someone who is sitting on my tail, I would tap on the breaks and then they pull back --- but  they do not seem to pay attention to safe car distance , stopping distance , it does not make any difference what the weather conditions are ---- and for those of you speed acholics out there no i am not a slow driver --- I used to do rally driving ----- but I can recognise when someone is dangerously driving, my reaction is, well boy, if you want to kill yourself then go ahead --- but you are not taking me with you . So many people think they can drive well  but drive in such a reckless way --- but that is just arrogance to me ----

Speed does kill!!!!!! stupidity does kill, poor judgement does kill, taking risks does kill ----  Yes i would agree that there are also some really stupid rules and speed limits on the roads ---- but we are all responsible for our actions.

These rules would not be there if there were not maniacs out there on the road ---- Perhaps -- we should drive as the Indians do --- with no or little road rules !!!! --- where it is free for all --- then we would be shouting for rules etc --- they( rules) are there for a purpose --- to keep stupid drivers from doing more stupid things ----  I would also agree it is about education --- re: drink driving, speeding , using mobile phones etc ---- politeness and good manners ----

Comment by Ian SMITH on March 7, 2012 at 15:51

I lived in Germany for 18 months.  From what I understand the number of deaths on the roads there isn't higher than anywhere else.  There are maybe fewer accidents but with more serious consequences than when speeds are lower.  

One thing I can tell you, however.  Several times I did a journey from Grenoble to Dresden.  There was 120km to Geneva on French autoroutes, then 200km or so thorough Switzerland, then the rest of the 1150km in Germany.  In Switzerland the risk of accident for me was way higher than in Germany.  Why?  Because with a limit of 100 or 120 all the time you sit and gradually go to sleep.  In Germany, on the unlimited sections, I was able to go very fast and I can tell you that I was 100% concentrated on the road all the time.  I found the Swiss part far more dangerous than the German part of the trip.

Comment by Louise Clark on March 7, 2012 at 15:47

And for the record, while this little discussion has been interesting and amusing, I think we should all reconsider why we live in this amazing country for a second, and let our actions lead the way. It's a gorgeous day. Get off your computers and go drink wine in the sun peoples. Reckless driving, speeding, stop signs, blah blah blah. The same argument and discussion could be had in almost every civilised country. A decent rosé on a sunny afternoon on the Cote D'Azur? Only in France... Au revoir!

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