"We're being invaded by gays" says former minister Christine Boutin

As France "recovers" from the million person march (organisers) or 150,000-strong (official figures) anti same-sex marriage "Manif pour tous" last weekend in Paris, a couple are preparing to wed in Montpellier.

On Wednesday, Vincent Autin and Bruno Boileau will become the first "gay grooms to tie the knot" since parliament voted in favour, the Constitutional Council gave its approval and the French president François Hollande signed same-sex marriage into law.

Add to that the fact that on the same day as the march, Franco-Tunisian director Abdellatif Kechiche picked up top honours at the Cannes film festival for his "story of a young woman's awakening" in the film "La vie d'Adèle" ("Blue is the warmest colour") and you'll surely understand (?) how it has all become just a little too much for the country's most gay-friendly politician to handle.

We're talking about Christine Boutin of course, the former housing minister and leader of the centre-right Parti chrétien-démocrate (Christian democratic party, PCD) - a defender of family values and most definitely not a homophobe.

That must be true because she has repeatedly said so.

But somehow it's increasingly hard to believe, especially in light of her outburst on French radio on Monday.

Following on from her recent tasteless tweet about US actress Angelina Jolie's decision to have a double mastectomy to reduce her chances of getting breast cancer, and perhaps still feeling the after-effects (well there has to be some sort of explanation) from being sprayed with tear gas during a "Manif pour tous" demonstration in Paris back in March, Boutin revealed that contrary to what she might insist, her views surely more than smack of homophobia.

Invited into the studios of RMC radio and asked to give her reaction to Kechiche's win, Boutin's gay tolerance fuse blew.

"You can't watch a movie on television or a series without there being gays included and expressing themselves," she said.

"And now it's the Palme d'Or.... We're being invaded. We can no longer have a story without a gay theme occurring. It's too much," she continued.

"Today it seems to be a fashion to be gay. We're being invaded by gays."

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Comment by celeste vogel-dillon on May 29, 2013 at 16:56

Hold yer whist there Brian -- the wedding is not until 5.30    --- let them get over the ceremony and the tv crews and the politicians and the onlookers and the protesters --- they still have to break a bottle of Bolly and have dinner and a dance --- so they will be much too busy to have a tiff at this stage .

Lets , as you say ,wish them luck and hope there is no sting in the tail ---- otherwise we will have to send them Zoe's tweezers


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Comment by Brian Milne on May 29, 2013 at 16:23

Now I am going in at the deep end! Zoe and I are both bee keepers! I got quite a buzz out of coming out on that one, could even break out in hives ;-) 

Now back to Earth base everybody. Let's all just congratulate the happy couple who have probably had their first marital disagreement by now... 

Comment by Zoe Buckley on May 29, 2013 at 16:19

Ticks???? i use a tweezers, and try to keep the pets out of long grass.


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Comment by Brian Milne on May 29, 2013 at 16:18

Ley, I think we have to encourage people in the public eye to stop equating paedophilia and homosexuality, simply because they do and they are wrong. However, I did not see Celeste equating them, simply her putting them in a single comment but without anything saying they are 'the same', 'comparable' or whatever. 

The bottom line is, one's sexuality is their business and does not need to be said unless, perhaps they are asked and choose to respond. Then that response is nobody's business but their own in reality. People are just people, human beings with their own lives and within reason (for instance, we do not simply accept somebody is a mass murderer and let him or her get on with it) how one lives one's life should be taken as it comes without everything being judged by somebody.

Comment by celeste vogel-dillon on May 29, 2013 at 16:17

Neither can I Sandra --- reading between the lines --- i think the reference means -- very camp--- effeminate --- or at least that is my understanding ----I am open to correction on this -------

I always thought ticks were what dogs and people  got out in the woods and you use Frontline on them to kill them!!!! lol

Comment by celeste vogel-dillon on May 29, 2013 at 16:13

Touche Zoe --- we must have been reading the same thing at the same time -----  !!!!

Comment by Sandra Chubb on May 29, 2013 at 16:10

It's unfortunate that the French use the slang pédé for someone gay, as it does give a completely wrong impression.  

I don't think anyone answered your question "what are ticks".  They are usually considered to be involuntary movements, such as those displayed by people with Aspergers - I can't see the relevance to gays at all.

Comment by celeste vogel-dillon on May 29, 2013 at 16:02

Ley, I am so sorry , I did not mean to offend you or anyone else and normally i would never use paedophilia and homosexuality together --- and abhor the equation that is sometimes made. you are right to point it out

I was trying to explain that Freud would not be the best person to comment on this subject , because of his history and personal behaviour and his psychotic experiments.

my own background would be in Cognative Behavioural Psychology .. i have seen first hand the affect of bullying on young teenagers who are trying to come to terms with their sexuality,--- and unfortunetly some who have been so distraught they have taken their own lives . 

To me they are the most compassionate of humans ---- for a homosexual to come 'out' is a very brave thing --- because of the prejudices , and homophobia they have to face on a daily basis .

This is one of the reasons I get so angry ---- also I think sexuality is a personal thing --- I do not present myself to people saying 'Hi. I'm Celeste i'm Hetrosexual' it is nobodies business , so it makes me very angry when people say' OH !! by the way their gays '??????  I do not want to know --- I just want to know what the person is like, as a person .

Comment by Ley Thompson on May 29, 2013 at 15:21

Celeste, I think you miss my point. I definitely wasn't criticizing what you said. All I request is for us to stop equating paedophilia and homosexuality,  deliberately or unthinkingly. As a gay man of some age now, I know only too well how damaging this ubiquitous association can be, that's all. Whether I, you or anyone else likes it or not there is an association between the two in the eyes of the public and it behoves all of us who care, to be vigilant and to point it out wherever it appears. Actually I have been truly encouraged to read what you and other members of SFN have written on this thread (with one exception - not this one). As a psychodynamic counsellor working for Relate for many years I am well aware of Freud and his teachings and have dismissed almost all of them. I respect his attempts to describe the human condition but I deplore his methods and conclusions. I am much more of a Jungian psychotherapist and endeavour to include his work into my own. However they worked many years ago now and I remain open to new thoughts and change. It's always so much more difficult to evaluate when in the midst of the change itself than it is to look back with more open (hopefully) eyes. 

Comment by celeste vogel-dillon on May 29, 2013 at 14:51

Ley --- I did not mix up the words i have used ---- if you were familiar with the life and times of Freud then what i have said is correct ---- his reasoning for his 'experimentation' was to understand in the inner working of the emotional being .  Having studied his work and that of Jung for many years, in my own line of work ----- I did not say those words lightly . It is well documented.

I was answering a comment by someone ' they wondered what would Freud think of all this discussion '

i have many good friends and relatives who are gay and are wonderful ,loving ,caring people --- that is why i cannot stand this reaction by the French .

My brother-in laws partner is a father with 3 grown up girls and he has 3 grandaughters --- they babysit , and adore the children  the same as my own children have always adored their uncles ---- I have no time for this anti gay bull s---- it makes me angry ---- their lack of tolerance  ------

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