A politician with a vision and ideas? How novel

Andy Burnham’s speech (I heard bits) seems to have been genuinely inspiring, and to have contained good ideas. A politician who has spent time thinking, joining ideas up and with the ability to present these coherently and attractively.

What a change from — well, the times of Thatcher onwards, maybe.

Corrected!

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Since Thatcher?

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And much of the last two decades

Here’s hoping that he has the gumption to deliver and he doesn’t get destroyed by the electorate’s love of possessing and consuming gâteau.

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Dunno…
Thatcher (love or hate her) had a strong set of opinions, and worked hard.
Same with Blair.
At least, I think that is true of the Blair who started as PM, not the Blair who gave up #Ten to Gordon Brown.

Ah well, “all political careers end in failure”
Or, more recently “all political careers end in memoirs” plus lucrative speaking engagements..

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He seemed adept at making the link between cost and benefit, and his plan for the Triple Lock seemed to make sense.

I watched the whole thing through from start to finish and despite my previous misgivings, was really impressed. I have only 2 reservations, my previous criticisms of him from his previous time in government, were that he was all talk and no substance. I hope I am wrong because all of what he said I approved of.

My second reservation is ‘how the hell is he going to pay for it all?’ And that is a worry, time will tell.

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We need the vision first - solutions /money come after.
It’s been a long time since we’ve had a PM with passion and vision who is able to communicate effectively.
Did you see the smiles in the hall? This is a PM people will follow.

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He certainly talks the talk.

Let’s see if he walks the walk.

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One wonders about the Civil Service response. “Yes Prime Minister. Of course you do realise that …”

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Yep, one can hear Sir Humphrey Appleby “A very courageous decision, Prime Minister”.
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For myself, I look forward to the proposed electoral reform enquiry.

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Of course, that is their job. It’s then up to him what he does with the advice.

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An excellent speech and a real agenda for change, PR, all options on the EU and free care. A vision at last. The party better get behind him.

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i see the nay sayers are already at it. But he could have discovered the way to speak about Brexit without the RW frothing at the mouth - give them the loss of the triple lock to froth about at the same time.

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I think it’s a smart move to talk about the EU now, plenty of time for voters to get comfortable with the idea and the Labour Party to gauge how well any proposal will be received.

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I have noticed that some of the usual suspects praising Farage et al. forget that it’s two years till the next GE. I wonder if a lot of them are so obsessed with having their own Trumpian" revolution" that they confuse it with the US midterms…

He isn’t going to pay for it, the British Taxpayer will. The ones not able to Non-Dom themselves or just plain emigrate anyway.

Makes sense as they’ll be the ones to benefit from it.

Rejoin the EU ASAP, low hanging growth just waiting to be harvested :slightly_smiling_face:

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