Are we too quick to sue someone.. UPDATE


(stella wood) #1

(Jane Williamson) #2

After reading this report half of me says yes he is right and the other half says stop making so much trouble.
It wpuld be much easier all round if the airport made a compensation payment.
Suing them makes me think that he is just after the money.


(Peter Juselius) #3

You should try to feel a bit more empathy.


(stella wood) #4

I read it twice… as it seemed so strange…

Hauling himself across the airport, he must surely have put himself more at risk of pressure sores, than if he had allowed himself to be whisked through in the wheelchair, with the assistance they offered him.

But it has been a long day here… … perhaps some of you view his situation differently…


(David Martin) #5

I heard him talking on the news, I don’t have a lot of sympathy. Sorry. :frowning:


(stella wood) #6

I can understand him being furious about his own wheelchair… but I think suing is just a step too far…


(Paul Flinders) #7

I thought that it was actually the assistance that irked him. They offered him a chair which could not be propelled by its user - thus robbing him of his independence. I can sort-of see his point.


(stella wood) #8

If he was “robbed” … it was only very short-term… :thinking: and they offered assistance ie someone to push the chair… cannot see what more they could have done in the circumstances…

I was “robbed of my independence”… and needed to be carried up a staircase on a ferry once … but I did not sue anybody… :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


(Paul Flinders) #9

Hence my “sort-of” - but I think he must value his independence rather a lot - otherwise why adopt the “solution” that he chose.

As to suing - hmmm…:thinking:


(Timothy Cole) #10

I’m not sure he’s pursuing this for monetary gain, he’s merely seeking to raise awareness of the available facilities for disabled people in airports. Whether he’s going about things in the right way is open to debate.


(Teresa Shipley) #11

I would imagine if he became paraplegic because of an operation going wrong he’s already sued once so he probably knows how to proceed.
Personally if the airport didn’t have the correct wheelchair or transport for him when his own was left behind it isn’t the fault of the ground staff. They can’t just magic one out of thin air , so whilst I understand his frustration I agree that the staff did what they could. Hopefully the airport will now ensure they have suitable transport if this happens again in the future.
I think he should sue for a £1. just to raise awareness.


(Nellie Moss ) #12

I know as the article says pressure sores can develop quickly but in a young, well nourished and hydrated person , its debatable if they would develop that quickly
I have mixed feelings about the ’ compensation culture '. If someone has suffered life changing injury then yes they need to be helped , also as a way of drawing attention to things that shouldn’t happen, but sometimes it is only persued for monetary gain. I was working in the NHS when the problems in Staffordshire hospital were disclosed. What happened in Staffordshire was disgusting and needed publicising, but for weeks we had visitors coming in and looking for all the things brought up in the investigation i.e. did mother have a water jug, had father been helped to eat his meal, all the things we routinely did but you could practically see pound signs in their eyes


(Peter Jackson) #13

The airport had a chair to provide assistance, he chose not to take that assistance. His choice, not a reason to sue


(Véronique Langlands) #14

I think the pressure sore scare is rubbish, frankly. My mother has been in bed at home (she is in a coma) for about the last 10 years and she doesn’t have any pressure sores. And she isn’t an athletic young man.


(Nellie Moss ) #15

I think Stellas point about the friction of dragging himself around the airport is a good one. I have cared for hundreds of immobile , frail bedbound elderly people They haven’t developed pressure sores


(Véronique Langlands) #16

He’s a wheelchair athlete with incredibly strong arms wearing jeans and socks. Not nice but again something he chose to do. He can probably scoot about at a fair clip, indoors on a smooth surface. I just get a strong whiff of cutting off your nose to spite your face.


(Helen Wright) #17

That must be a difficult situation…my partners mom has end stage Alzheimer’s and is in a “care home” costing just over £1000 per week…the staff are now turning her every 3 hours to avoid pressure sores…the only way of paying for this is by selling her house…they feel very much like they are being held hostage and every attempt so far to bring her home for her last days have been met by hostility arguments threats and lies from the “care home” manager and social services…it’s not just them…the elderly lady’s son in the next door room to my partners mom is in constant arguments with the managers…he’s well to do…his mom’s room is costing even more at £1,400 per week as it has more square feet that actually mean sweet fa to either of them…

It’s harrowing…


(Peter Juselius) #18

Oh boy, what a lot I don’t know what. Have you ever lost your temper?
Oh, he is a cripple, he should be thankful, he should not loose his temper. Ever.
No, he should be happy & thankful when everything mounts up against him, of robbing him from his mobility.
Those of you who have lived with a crippled relative you must have notice that some times the life prospects are not sunny at all. And I mean lived for 10-20-years? Not your aunt Mari with a wooden leg(metaphorically speaking) that you visit twice a year, and she is always so happy…
You can only take so much before you blow your top.
What do you care if airline or somebody has to pay something? Do you have shares, own the company or what?
I suggest you take a cup of tea and watch some cat pictures.
Life is hard for all of us, cut him some slack.


(stella wood) #19

Hi Peter

I’m not surprised he lost his temper…

I am just making the point/asking the question… about why it seems an almost automatic thing… to follow up a drama/whatever… with the threat of a Court Case…

The threat to Sue is thrown about with almost gay abandon… then, with publicity etc adding fuel to the flames… the threat becomes reality… and the money and time involved is ridiculous, more often than not… IMO.


(Ann Coe) #20

I have cared for and lived with my disabled mother (wheelchair only) for over 20 years.
If I sued for every time we came across a real setback when we are travelling we would now probably be able to afford a chauffeur driven car and ‘staff’ to help out.
It is frustrating and I do get extremly angry sometimes.
I am not prepared to list all the incidents here, it would take too long, and it’s not what this forum is for.
However, in certain instances I ask to speak to whoever is in charge, and also follow up with a letter. This is to draw attention to the fact that it’s not just us who have these problems, but to point out that other disabled people are probably having the same difficulties and that maybe they should ‘re-think/change’ whatever is wrong.
It was not the fault of the staff at Luton Airport that Justin’s customised chair was left behind and that no other option was available than to be wheeled to his taxi and I can understand his anger.
However he was offered the option, he chose not to take it as he felt it was degrading and humiliating. So he chose instead to drag himself through the airport (that’s not degrading and humiliating ) ?
If he kicked up a fuss to raise awareness of special needs people ok, but to sue !!
As for pressure sores devoloping that quickly, it’s utter BS (IMO) !