Read an article about what items to have ready in case of interruption of supply chain. Although the likely cause of any interruption was said to be El Niño (which is certainly a possibility), there was an undercurrent of wars and rumours of wars.
Could you last 3 days if fuel, water and internet went off?
Water would be only concern with horses and alpacas. We have a water collection system from barns and house roofs plus pipes under paddocks that flood. Unfortunately the pond has been dry for 2 months now due to severe lack of rain.
We hate supermarket shopping so generally do a monthly shop for cans of tomatoes, toilet roll, dried pasta, rice etc. So would be fine eating for a month even if had to do a bit of foraging for greens.
Water is another matter. We have 2 10 litre drinking water containers that w e fill if think there might. be a problem. And 2 1000 litre cuves for outside.. but we’d be drinking through the celler quite quickly.
No, that’s why I don’t stress out about that possibility the way survivalists do (who, for now, are shamelessly using social media and the internet ). I’m enjoying every day—as for what comes next, we’ll see !
Well it would have to be tinned foods that you can eat cold like corned beef, veggies etc, anything else needs water and heat especially rice and pasta unless you want it cold in tins which makes me barf. Water is a problem as it takes 4litres to fully flush my loos each, they have half flushes but I cannot bear to have urine sitting in the bowl for very long. A flannel wash would be OK as hot water would not be hot without electricity. I already bought a torch off Amazon that you can leave in the sun to charge, add batteries as normal or use the wind up handle and I have dozens of candles and two big boxes of matches to light them with. Actually you could have a fire outside and cook over that. End of the day, stay in bed and keep warm with some good books. Internet not a problem as my life does not revolve it nor mobile phones or social media. This reminds me to stock up on some bottled beers that I enjoy and some ciders.
We’d need to get more water but for everything else we could manage for more than 3 days. Plenty of wood so heat not a problem, plus we could slowly heat stuff up on it too. We have a camping gas ring with spare canisters if needed, plenty of candles and torches. Just really need more drinking water, toilets can be flushed from rain water 2 1000 ltr. tanks. Sounds like we’re turning into preppers !
We don’t get hardly any rain in a year to store so that’s a no for me. Another problem down here is living without a fridge would be difficult to stop fresh foods going bad so only tinned and dried. LL Milk is my norm but again once opened, needs a fridge to stop it going bad. If there is no electricity, then the sewage treatment plants would be obsolete I would have thought so perhaps digging a latrine in the garden might be necessary and keeping some bags of peat to cover the offerings as they are done plus would water stop coming through the taps?Its amazing when you think how everything is intertwined with something else like electricity to work most things and solar panels would be useless too in domestic settings, literally everything would come to a standstill as we know it.
I think the other issue is that 3 days isn’t long enough because once things start to unravel it will take longer to get them going again. As you say @Shiba, everything is intertwined.
We’ve always thought that rural France would cope quite well - people have potagers, a few chickens, water tanks, firewood. Local hunters would get food for the pot. It is the townies who would struggle.
If I have a few days warning, stuff from the freezer isn’t too much of a problem as I have a pressure canner and plenty of large jars. Veg I could water bath but it would depend on a having a bit of advance notice. You’re right about the solar, even with our storage battery it would be useless, along with all motor vehicles.
We have four of the largest water bottles we could find in the supermarket and a number of tins of sardines and various pulses and so on. We have lots of pasta and rice. It seems to me that luck has so far stopped any escalation to a hot war with Russia but how long can that hold? Hopefully any emergency will be something else and more short lived.
I don’t know what you mean about solar being no good in domestic situations? In both France, where I am off-grid, and UK I have pv’s and powerbanks which are independent of all but the sun.
For a couple of years now we have had a food store in the UK sufficient for a few weeks and save rainwater which can be consumed with purifying tablets.
As I am in fairly rural locations there are alternatives to shop-bought food. We have streams and in UK the sea nearby with a boat and stored fuel and I know where and how to catch fish. I could sail into the ocean to avoid attack.
In an extended shortage situation there will be some form of curfew as public order will break down. I have a useful dog for basic protection, but after that you need your own army.
It’s all very well dissing survivalists. As a carpenter/joiner it’s a standing joke among us that we know how to survive when it all falls down - as it will.
The digital revolution has had an overall counter-effect on civilisation, which has taken the wrong turning. I worry about my grandchildren, they are not responsible, but most of the rest of us are (eg climate and the bowing-down to the corporates and the technofeudalists) and are in constant denial about what we are doing to the environment.
We are very wasteful of resources. We wash clothes and our bodies far too often, in France for years I managed perfectly well with stand-up washes from a kettle over a scavenged wood fire. It goes on…but I’ll end the sermon here
Yann.. There are two types of solar installation . The on grid type which requires the National grid to provide the reference voltage ,phase and frequency and feeds any excess into the grid and draws from the grid as required … . That is a problem ×* …even with battery storage
The alternative is the off grid arrangement which has its own voltage and frequency reference and is disconnected from the Grid.
*There is potentially a workaround in the case of the failure of the grid … Which I might be prepared to try .. but am reluctant without an need … One of those 2KW battery bank invertor units or Power Stations plugged into a house socket might persuade the Solar Panel controller to play fair
My PV system has the ability to be set up in ‘island’ mode i.e. without the need for an external source.
In theory in order to reset it over to that mode I’d need another source of power; my current plan is a 12v inverter that can be run from a vehicle battery, but the one I have is probably too crude as I’m assuming that the power management hardware would like to see pure sine wave input.