I expect that the real figure probably lies somewhere in the middle.
I donât know what value you can put upon a constitutional monarchy giving a sense of stability to a country?
Bob⌠this is a very old news story⌠dated 2015
Re the Royals, costs et alâŚ
We thrashed things out, quite thoroughly⌠over the more recent years⌠last I saw was around June 2018.
Personally, Iâm very upset that you have obviously not been following the Forum threadsâŚ
Old article maybe Stella,but one that apparently has resurfaced; perhaps as a result of another potential heir to the throne.
Several comments were made after a tongue in cheek remark I made re. cat food.
My thoughts afterwards were along the lines of âhow do Royalists here reconcile living in a republic, that didnât exactly ask nicely that its monarchy stand down; & disposed of certain by violent means.â
Also Stella, I donât follow every forum thread simply because I donât have the time; & some are not relevant to me.
Neither do I BobâŚ
Had the Title given a clue to the content⌠I would have passed it byâŚ
but, I reckon you knew that your Title would get most folk taking a peekâŚ
We do live in a Republic Bob but the people at the top still take the p**s, have a look at how much running the Elysee Palace costs, the money the Macronâs spend on looking their best, the money theyâve spent on doing up the presidential properties, the pensions presidents get and as an ex-president the free perks that have for the rest of their lives which for Macron and co might well be 30/40 years.
I take your point Tim, but it wasnât the one I was making.
To live in a republic but extol the virtues of having a (frankly outdated & redundant IMO) monarchy, seems to me at least, contradictory.
Privileges given will almost certainly be abused by those to whom they are granted.
You misjudge me Stella
Well, Bob, welcome to the new Club I am forming - âLate Arrivalsâ! Iâm later than you as I have only just picked up on this!
Jane, not sure about this Monarchy=Stability bit. Maybe thereâs some sort of emotional tie, but I remain basically uncomfortable about even in a Constitutional one (does Britain have written Constitution?) an unelected person could still ride over the wishes of the people _
oh, wait a minuteâŚ;;? A sudden thought of King Farage floated into my mind just then - I think I am going to be sick!
Hmmmm âFarageââŚ& you used the word âfloatedâ
Is that because he reminds you of âthat which will not flushâ ?
Even Prime Minister or President Farage gives me exactly the same feeling.
I didnât realise there is an issue with monarchists living in republics or vice versa
No issue at all.
As I said, my first reaction was why would a republic appeal so much to a bunch of ardent royalistsâŚif the monarchy is so important?
I suppose the real question is "What exactly does Liz do that merits so much adulation ?
I think for most people, even royalists , itâs not a major consideration when deciding where to live
I understood the point Bob I was just suggesting that whatever âhead of stateâ system you live under youâre going to get the same cost etc, as for adulation just look across the Atlantic, millions love a man who has used the countryâs tax rules to save himself a fortune whilst tens of millions have no healthcare.
I must say Iâve never understood the argument that the UK monarchy generates income. As the article points out, estates or attractions like castles, the crown jewels, etc, would exist whether the monarchy was still there or not. I remember being dragged along to some things - the changing of the guard, etc - as a small boy - but they were parts of family days out - if we hadnât gone there we would have gone somewhere else, and might well have spent more money anywayâŚ
And does anybody really choose to visit a country because it has a monarchy? Doesnât Franceâs top position as a tourist destination disprove that? Are there thousands of Brits at this moment thinking âwe must holiday in Spain because it has a monarchyâ - or are they actually thinking something like âIâm fed up with this weather and want some guaranteed sunâ?
Just seen this:
Most of the estates-bar those privately bought by the RF-already belong to âusâ via the Crown Estates which -at the last figures I can find -put back ÂŁ329.4 million into the treasury. The land technically belongs to the Crown but can not be sold. The Crown does not administer the Crown Estates and has only limited input.
The United Kingdom doesnât have a written constitution, although bits of the constitution are in writing.
The term âConstitutional Monarchyâ is used to indicate that the monarch has no actual power but contributes in a figure-head, non-executive-type manner.