on second thoughts, the blame-game will kick of immediately, Farage and BJ will blame TM & party that they did not exit as BJ&F suggested. No-cake-exit …
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You can see it already - as Brexit will have been implemented by a Remainer - this will be the reason for it being bad therefore blame the implementation and not the unachievable hunt for unicorns.
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Even if we had made the negotiating team consist of JRM, BJ and Farage there would have been a narrative of how the EU were “punishing” us. It will never be their fault in their eyes.
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This on is a bit worrying - Liam Fox suggesting that, in the case of no-deal, we simply slash import tariffs to zero.
I wonder whether, in the final analysis. we will determine whether the destruction of the country was due to malice or incompetence?
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Add Matt’s no border controls post (UK ports to wave through EU goods without checks after no-deal Brexit, HMRC says) and it all starts to make sense.
[Edit] Have you read Britannia Unchained https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained ?[/edit]
Quote from Donald Tusk this morning
“By the way, I have been wondering what the special place in hell looks like for those who promoted Brexit, without even a sketch of a plan how to [deliver it] safely”
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Varadkar’s comment immediately afterwards was prophetic.
I confess that what I am wondering right now is, when the penny drops, as surely it must, where the anger of all those who voted Leave will be directed. The shattering of 17 million people’s cognitive dissonance upon hard impact with reality could be a dangerous phenomenon.
Apparently, like this
Out of curiosity - did you follow a link on Facebook to the above?
Looking at it another way, I’ve always considered myself to be a “guest” here.
I suppose that assumes that I / we could be told to piss off home at any moment, but I don’t see what it would solve.
Our mayor said, the first time I spoke with him at length, that if it wasn’t for “incomers”, much of rural France would still be living in the 1950’s.
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I have posted on Donald Tusk’s Facebook page and congratulated him for telling how it is and pointing out that the Brexiteers are treating their fellow citizens so badly that they feel like they are living in hell.
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Your mayor is absolutely right Bob! I’m currently at a wonderful location in Spain - just 2.5 hours drive away from my ‘current’ home in France. Another, much better universe.
Is it too difficult to understand that when your factory exports to the EU if something happens to put that at risk, your job and those of others, could be on the line?
Was reading that plans were being put in place to move the Royal Family to a safe address in the event of a no deal brexit.
But several prominent figures in the Leave campaign stressed that we would either not leave the SM or have just the same access to it - if you believed those claims then you would not think there was any risk to your job.
And there was a willingness to believe Leave’s claims, to not examine them critically - both in the media and in a lot of people’s minds.
Brexit clearly played a part n Nissan’s decision - they have said so explicitly, though there were other factors.
It’s ludicrous, isn’t it?
We’ve gone from “no possible downside” to “we can manage if the population riot a bit”.
Starmer pushing Labour in a Norway-like direction.
Probably too little, too late but we will see.
Well I have to say when I started this thread 20 odd days ago, I had no idea it was going to be so active and still be in full flow now. 2.2k view and nearly 300 replies cheers guys there’s some really good inciteful posts on here to thanks for all your contributions.
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In 20 years I wonder what “To do a Brexit” will mean?
Perhaps the equivalent of chopping your nose off…
I can’t wait to see what amendments come up at the next meaningful vote.