Can I sell excess honey from beekeeping hobby on a retirement visa or will it be classed as working?
I understand the rules on NAPI registration and siret numbers.
I doubt that it would be possible to register a business activity, in order to obtain your siret, with a visa/CdS that does not allow economic activity.
It might be a nice gesture to donate the excess honey to a local registered charity, for them to sell.
Unfortunately they would not be able to sell it without the correct labelling on the jars.
Ah OK.
But neither would you, presumably?
From a quick look at the labelling requirements they appear to be minimal. Could you or they not simply write out labels by hand? I assume you will not have industrial quantities.
No just any excess over what we consume. I just don’t want to be accused of invalidating the visa.
If your visa doesn’t allow you to be economically active then it is safer not to be.
Earning money and not declaring it on your tax return is fraud.
Declaring professional income on your tax return when you are not allowed a professional activity may raise questions at renewal, when your tax returns will be inspected.
Sorry, I know you probably want people to say Go on you will be fine, it is only pin money from a hobby, just don’t declare it and nobody will know. But my own view is that it really is simpler to abide by the rules.
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Yes that is what I thought. I posted the question in the hope someone had direct experience.
I would always err on the side of caution.
Do people here on a visa fill in tax returns in France?
A CdS on the other hand means you are living here, doesn’t it?
I did not charge for my labour when delivering rescue dogs all over Europe, so I did not mention any of it on my tax returns, but just to be sure I kept scrupulous records of every penny of expenses I incurred and was reimbursed.
If you move to France on a visa then for the first year your visa acts as your CdS, it is only when you renew it that you get the actual CdS card. I was assuming Paul is still in his first year.
But yes, if he has moved to France he has to fill in a tax form declaring income from his date of arrival.
Thank you. 
Can’t do that either - nor even give it to a food bank.
Best option might be to do a deal with another local beekeeper.
Really?? Whyever not?
I entirely believe you and I am not altogether surprised, but am curious what specific legislation prevents it. I am sure I have often seen cakes, jams etc for sale at charity do’s.
Have you posted this question before? Someone has. No matter: where are you? I will buy any amount of honey in the comb that you have and give not a stuff about stupid labels…
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How about giving it to neighbours? I’m sure it would be welcomed and you wouldn’t be breaking any visa conditions.
Will contact you next year Adam
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Traceability is main issue. They will I believe take honey that is correctly labelled, with Siret number and NAPI code and all the documents- so essentially a pro producer who could sell the honey anyway.
They can’t take pots of honey like substances from unregistered people that could contain anything. To great a risk of a weird person wanting to poison disenfranchised people I guess.
Much better solution,
Ever thought about experimenting with making mead with your excess honey?
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Fair enough but I did look at several jars of honey that I have bought and none of them has a siret number on, just the name of the producer and the other required information. If he is registered with NAPI, which he has to be in any case if he keeps bees, he is traceable.
Please do!
I have severe withdrawel symptoms last year as comb honey like rocking horse poo!
Too many fields of rape round your way?