I have been trying, unsuccessfully, for the last few months to get my daughter added onto my Carte Vitale. I feel like i am banging my head on a brick wall!
I sent a copy of her Birth Certificate, translated into French at their request, to be told it's not accaptable as it doesn't have her parents names on.
So then i sent a copy of her 'certified copy of an entry' which has our names on and we paid extra for when she was born, again translated into French, another 50 euro's, and again not acceptable.
I contacted the Registrar back in the town we come from in England who said that they don't do 'full' certificates anymore and that the one we have is all they do.
Has anyone else had a similar problem? Does anyone know of any way round this problem?
@Fiona, if you search for denial of Healthcare to British expat retirees here on the network, you will see the whole story.
It has been covered in The Connexion newspaper, who have, unfortunately, given a false impression that this problem has been solved. We are still waiting for the French reply and the outcome of the talks between the DoH and the CLEISS.
I too have a case being taken up by the Commission. As my case is on behalf of all ex-pat retirees in France, I have had my case take up by my ex UK MEP. There are also talks going on between the DoH in UK and the French health authorities.
My case with the Commisssionmis with the French authorities, who have ten weeks to reply. Although the outcome will only apply to myself, I fail to see how the French authority, the CLEISS, will be able to refuse other ex-pat pensioners with exactly the same criteria as myself.
SOLVIT has already been mentioned on SFN and I urge anyone who has a problem to see if it would apply to them.
Fiona thanks for that, I may well contact them too. My husband has been set up as an artisan now for 16 months. Finally after chasing we have the bills to pay them but of course we have to go via our accountant as they are asking far too much. We have been waiting all this time and no carte vitales. We have sent, resent and resent all the documents over and over with translations. They never actually reply to the correspondance. Finally I had the papers to send off for the carte vitale but with all my details wrong after our accountant wrote to them. I am getting fed up with the RSI so its good to know there is somewhere to go if it is not sorted out. i should add that my husband still only has his temporary social security number and despite registering with a doctor 12 months ago as requested, he still has not health insurance card. I've just been looking at SOLVIT-very very useful to know they exist!
Politicians, who needs them?
yes, although he was the man france needed at the time, he was one of the most arrogant frenchmen in history. Mind you I think he was having a pop after at the UK after it had been invited to join at the outset but the UK said no as it didn't need such an organisation, it had its empire...!
How about General de Gaulle saying a very loud "Non" to the UK, despite all the Brits did for France?
I think that created a very definite mind-set in the British people.
Not just officials Jane, I've had plenty of business people, students, friends etc who all though the Uk wasn't in the EU. They get confused with the whole euro zone thing and the fact that the UK always says no to everything...!
It also seems that many french officials do not think that the UK is in the EU because it is not in the euro zone.
There has been at least one post where someone was told that this was not Europe, it was France!
Me too Jane, also in the UK all government departments provide forms in all eu country languages, i thought this was supposed to be the law throughout the eu.
It would appear that many things in the eu are not equal or fair from one country to another, why have an eu if if it doesn't provide any standard for countries to provide services equally, it seems as though it's nothing more than a name.
One thing that totally amazes me is that the french do not even consider that other countries in the EU may have paper work different from their own.
Why is there not a reference site for all these departments so that they can check what is the equivalent in any other EU country?
This would save such a lot of bother and heartache for the poor people moving between EU countries.
I have just joined this site and see that you have had difficulties in resolving health insurance issues. May I suggest that you contact www.amariz.fr - numero vert 0800 900 258. This company has been providing specialist health insurance for persons living in France for the last 20 years. The staff are bilingual as is the website. Cover is provided by Lloyd’s of London. Good luck.
Ian Swan
Funnily enough, I noticed the adversion is not to "foreign languages", it's only yo English. Getting an Australian driving licence changed over was a NIGHTMARE, until I came up on someone who's son had been to Australia, took an interest, and got my papers through. Before meeting this lady, I had been told so many stories, but all with a recurring theme "english documents, mumble mumble mumble".
After some moving around, I had a Belgian licence (flemish), and found it was transferred straight away. Yes, driving licences are differrent, because there is a standard European model, but, I've come up on this problem with quite a few documents, and forms.
The reason why the french administration ask for a recent birth certificate is because the french birth certificate is 'updated' with information about marital status. They are astonished to discover that our papers don't change and therefore we only need the original.
The Britsh embassy may be able to help too. Many years ago they supplied me with an official paper explaining that we didn't have, and could not obtain, a 'livre de famille'.
good luck!
I'm with RSI and they, too, have asked me twice now, to send birth certs..I've posted fresh copies this morning!
We've waited 2 years for our carte-vitales to be returned after I sent them back when they asked me to..I should NEVER have done this. All my french friends say it was not a good idea. I suspect the RSI may be institutionally racist. French friends have warned me about this with the RSI.
I think Jane's idea of getting the birth certificates apostilled, sounds like a failsafe possibility to try but I do actually feel the RSI are the real issue. They've always got our cotisations wrong and generally try to charge too much. They don't like dealing with people who need CMU from working for low self-employed wages either..I've had the receptionist tell me not to compare the systems with the UK because I'm getting things "free". I said it wasn't free when I've already paid my dues.
When they ask for Copies of birth certs they do need to be recent ones--I think within 3 months
You can get the birth certificates apostilled, this makes them legal documents, which have to be accepted. The Registry will tell you how to do this.
You can have the birth certificate apostilled, this makes it a legal document. The Registry will tell you how to do this.
will try and send her details now. Not entirely sure how so maybe a pm or may be public :-)
Thanks Clara, i have sent you a friend request if you could send me the details of the translator that would be great, do you send them scanned copies of the originals? Like you say RSI are in a league of their own. We never needed anything translating when we bought our house either.
Ours were the same for the mortgage etc. we never needed any translations but for the RSI - well they seem to be in a league of their own for requirements. Pam - we pay 25 euros per certificate - if you would like the details just let me know.
I have just checked our certificates and it is the copy of the certified entry that we have and they were happy with that. Maybe send yours as well?