Completing the micro-entrepreneur registration form - help please!

Hi, I’m completing the ME registration form at guichet-entreprises.fr. to cover the running of a chambre d’hote. My French is basic but even using Google translate some of the questions are unclear to me - can anyone advise on the following queries?

I am asked - Have you made a waiver of the unseizability of the principal residence? & Have you made a declaration of unseizability of property other than the principal residence?
I haven’t - is this recommended?

I am asked - Êtes-vous ?
Forain
Ambulant
Non concerné

Not sure about how to respond!

I am asked - Do you have a person with the power to bind the establishment or an undivided owner to declare?
The business will be run by myself and my partner but for ME purposes will be in my name. Should I say yes to the above question?

RÉGIME FISCAL DE L’ENTREPRISE – there is an option to opt out from this. Is this recommended?

Pour votre assurance maladie, choisissez un organisme conventionné – any recommendations on health insurance providers?

I am asked - Voulez-vous faire bénéficier d’autres membres de votre famille (conjoint collaborateur non couvert à titre personnel par un régime obligatoire, enfants, autres) de votre assurance maladie ?

It is advisable to nominate a partner/significant other here?

Any advice very much appreciated :slight_smile:

Thanks

Mark

Sounds like you need a bit of handholding, Mark - why not see if the forum’s very own Skype Consultancy Services is available to help, or alternatively Valérie at http://www.startbusinessinfrance.com/ specialises in all things micro entreprise and is highly recommended by many.

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Just noticed this bit. None of my business of course but it is generally advisable to play by the rules, otherwise you risk finding that things that are designed to fall into place automatically if you’ go through all the hoops, go missing from the equation. Apart from the fraud aspect, how is your partner hoping to obtain health cover if she’s working but pretending not to be?

Thanks Anna

Hi Anna, it’s actually the rules of the ME (as i can understand them) that has me thinking that we need to register as one person for ME purposes, even tho there are actually 2 of us involved in the day to day stuff. I very much doubt our situation is unique.
So I am trying to play by the rules rather than circumvent them, and neither of has any intention of pretending we are doing anything other than what we are doing :slight_smile:

Some of my original questions actually relate to the declaration of ANOTHER person who has an interest in the business and whether they can then access health cover etc - but clearly I need advice from someone who has gone thru the application process themselves.

@anon54681821 explained how he and his wife organise their business recently but I can’t remember the post. Perhaps he can help.

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OK fair enough.
There are two different ways of registering a conjoint (conjoint collaborateur or conjoint salairé), but I have a feeling the conjoint needs to be a spouse or pacs’d partner. You say partners- if this is not an official relationship it’s very advisable to formalise it in order to protect each other if you share assets, because under French inheritance law, in the unfortunate event that one of you inherit from the other, there would be 60% inheritance tax to pay. So if you’re not legally bound, you might want to think about that before you set up the business, it would give you more options.

If in fact you are pacs’d or married, then there are various factors to consider when deciding which status to opt for for your patner, and it’s important to make the right decision for your personal circumstances. Don’t just do what somebody else did, because their personal priorities may not be the same as yours. I’m sure Catherine or Valérie or whoever you decide to approach, will explain the implications and help you decide. Please don’t rush into this, setting up a business is a serious commitment so you do need to understand exactly what you’re opting for, it’s not just a case of guessing which box to tick.

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As Anna says… being married (or in some cases PAC’s) can be crucial… :relaxed:

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This translation of the AE guide was produced way back, an awful lot has changed since then so don’t rely on most of it but if it includes an explanation of the two options for registering a partner, AFAIK that aspect hasn’t changed since the scheme started. (Sorry haven’t had time to check what it says, I should have started back at work 10 mins ago!)
https://www.federation-auto-entrepreneur.fr/presse/translation-of-the-small-entrepreneur-a-guide-in-english

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Thanks Anna - I’ll check it out

@Anna has answered it. there are people who can help with this and for Gites, hotels id contact other people who run them as its different ways for every type of business

@MarkW - sorry if I was over-hasty earlier (jobs are like buses, no work for a week and then it all lands at once!) - I just looked at this link and in fact I didn’t see any reference at all to conjoints, so apologies for sending you on a wild goose chase with that.

The great advantage of micro entrepreneur is its simplicity, the great disadvantage is its inflexibility. If it suits your business model then all well and good, but it’s not the right solution for every business, and some types of business are excluded. It was specifically designed for sole traders. If your business model consists of running a business with an unrelated partner, then unfortunately you are excluded and you would need to adopt a different business structure, of which there are plenty. As said above, it is possible to work under micro with a spouse or pacs’d partner and there are two options for setting this up, but you need to look into it carefully because if you do this the scheme can lose some of its advantages, and it may well be that even though it’s possible, you’d still be better off choosing a different structure. You really do need advice on this. It will be money well spent because ufortunately in this case googletranslate isn’t going to deliver anywhere near good enough a translation for you to get a clear understanding of what the French is telling you, and choosing the wrong setup can be expensive because you can’t always make modifications mid-year.

Anyway I hope you’ve found some clarity on it by now, and good luck with it all :slight_smile:

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Thanks again Anna, I’ll keep digging and consider the options available :slight_smile:

Like you, I struggled with this online form so I eventually gave up and made an appointment at our local Greffe de tribunal de commerce (CCI). Again, like you my French isn’t brilliant but they were extremely helpful and completed the form, asking a few pertinent questions, which I eventually understood and answered and explaining as she went. A week later we received our registration number in the post and we are awaiting our social security numbers as they also liaise with the RSI. So I’d definitely recommend doing this as I’m finding the French seem to prefer meeting face to face than by email or online.

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Thanks Nick, yes I think that’s good advice, I’ll try face to face as the form is indecipherable in places :frowning:

Good luck and I hope it all turns out swimmingly. I really have found that going to see people in person has worked really well, so far, even with limited linguistic ability. Once I’ve mastered my initial nervousness, everyone from the Chamber of Commerce to the local electrician has proved to be extremely helpful and, dare I say, even friendly.

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