Confirmed Britons will need a carte de sejour!

It might be finalised (one way or the other) on September 20th. Bloomberg is reporting :

"Fifty-one European and Asian countries will be represented at the meeting on trade and climate change on Oct. 18 and Oct. 19, the European Council said in a statement. The summit could serve to coordinate responses to the U.S. administration.

The EU, China, and Japan have all been at loggerheads with Trump over his decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord and unilaterally impose tariffs on imports from his country’s biggest trading partners.

The meeting coincides with an EU summit on Oct. 18, which is also scheduled to tackle the “future trade policy,” and the “role of the EU in the multilateral trade system.”

Originally planned as a two-day event and marked as the key date to agree the terms of the U.K.’s withdrawal from the EU next year, the European summit has now been downgraded to a one-day event, according to the latest calendar.

Two European officials familiar with the planning for the European agenda this fall said that the crunch talks on Brexit are now likely to happen at the informal gathering of leaders in Salzburg, Austria, on Sept. 20. One said that given the slow pace of negotiations so far, Brexit talks are heading for a late-night cliffhanger reminiscent of the Greek bailout negotiations."

Or, indeed the culmination of the Phase 1 agreement.

So far the UK has held out to the last minute, then collapsed and agreed what the EU has suggested - I wonder if history will repeat itself.

In this particular game of chicken I think that the UK has more to lose than the EU.

Oh there is no climate change!!!
Trump says so!

Got one of his buddies staying here at my place…….well really!

I agree. If all else fails, that is, no withdrawal agreement, no transition, no future relationship agreement, I hope a ‘rights backstop’ could be signed and sealed, covering at least the rights of UK citizens in EU27 and EU27 in UK which have already been agreed.

The stable genius is right on so many things…! But the final version of the fourth U.S. National Climate Assessment, a legally required report that is currently being produced by the federal Global Change Research, will closely survey how a changing climate is affecting individual U.S. states, regions, and economic and industrial sectors. The last one was produced under Obama. Maybe that will change some minds.

I entirely agree, David. 18 years here, a French wife (until she died) a livre de famille and full health
cover. I don’t want to be French because I’m not and I don’t want a carte de séjour because I’m busy and will wait until someone says I have to.

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People might want to compare the application for a CdS whilst being from an EU country and applying as being from a non EU country (after March 2019)

I lived and worked in Paris for nine years before the UK joined. I had to have a Carte de Séjour then so it is only logical that the same will apply post Brexit. Back then, and even with the support of my employers, who had enough influence for me to be able to queue jump, it was a major hassle. Hours spent in long queues at the prefecture, lots of paperwork etc etc and it took for ever.

I renewed my current carte de séjour earlier this year and it took one visit to the prefecture, where I had an appointment and was out of there 15 minutes later, and a second visit a couple of weeks later to pick up the new “permanent” card, which took five minutes.

Do it now, people. You know it makes sense. It won’t do any harm to have one even if it turns out you don’t need it (unlikely) and it will be a whole lot harder to get one post Brexit.

Husband and I bought a property February 2018 so have only lived here for six months. We have not had to submit a tax return yet but have received our Carte Vitale. Are we eligible to apply for a CdS ? I perhaps mistakenly thought five years residence was necessary.

You can apply for a CDS after five years of residency, close the door on your way out please.:grinning:

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Linda may not have the right details but Tim that was really rude must be the heat…oh no possibly not.

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Addressed to Tim and Tim only?

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We’ve been here for three years and applied last May. Our applications and dossiers were accepted but we’ve heard nothing since and weren’t issued with a receipt. By all accounts the staff have been overwhelmed with applications, so decision are likely to be slow.

In your own case, you may find that your application will not go through until you have a tax statement to show your tax status in France, and/or evidence that your income is adequate to support you here.

In our small town there is a Centre d’Animation et de Services which is a gateway to many important Government services offering ready advice and support in accessing services, and some have a booth where you can be put in touch remotely with people in your Préfecture by video link.

You might check this out in your locality. The Marie is usually helpful too in pointing to sources of help. It just requires patience and acceptance that bureaucracy in France is slow, generally thorough and with a human face, but expects à respectful approach to members of staff.

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It was a joke Barbara as well you know and indicated by the emoji, when you are a moderator then you have the right to jump on me, until that time please try and refrain from chastising my comments aimed at other people.

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Hi Lindy… work your way through this link… or search the Forum… CdS has been a hot topic for ages now…

useful link:

yes life is too short!
Brexit is not gossip it is a man made mess.
And some of us want to find a way out.

Looks like wait and see then as tax statement not due in until end of May. Fingers crossed expats are taken into consideration.

Not at all Babs, if you retort in a humorous way fine otherwise you must expect something different.

I accept people are worried about what will happen to them after Brexit but some common sense is needed here, mass deportation is not going to ensue after March 2019 or December 2020.

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Hi Terry. what was the cost for the “permanent” card… and did you pay upfront or on collection of the card. ??

@lindy the general feeling amongst those on this site with longer experience than me is not to worry, the French are not ill-disposed to the British and are unlikely to expel people who have made their homes here in good faith and have “done the right thing” by French rules.

As relative newcomers we thought it seemed prudent to lay down a marker of our intentions, and the local administrations helped and even encouraged us to do so. It was only after we had been to the Préfecture that we realised how much extra work we had given them. The first time we went to St Lo we were turned away at the main door (very good naturedly) because the office was dangerously overcrowded, and no more could be admitted with the hope of being seen!

You seem to be very organised already with your shiny new Carte Vitale, so relax and take your time. All being well in 10 years you’ll be guiding others in the ways of wisdom on these matters :grinning: