"Hi everyone, can anyone tell me if we can still get our European Health insurance card for a trip to England from Ameli/CPAM"
I've never had a problem getting this card for some reason or other. If, as Roger says, it's the country providing the pension that issues the card, it may be because I have a minute French state pension as well as my UK pension. To get the card I just log on to ameli.fr
and go here
The link to that page is on the ameli home page. Click "Commander une Carte Européenne d'Assurance Maladie"
Hohum... I have two EU pensions soon. I have the feeling I may be 'stuffed'...
Roz, when my French card last expired, the CPAM were quite blunt and referred me to the UK. If you are a pensioner the EU regulations now require the country providing your pension to issue the EHIC. Have a look at https://www.ehic.org.uk/
My own recently expired one is about 20cm away from my keyboard, both daughters and my wife are expired too. Mine is a French issued one and I need to move fast to get it renewed now since I am a) an AE and b) 65 this autumn. My family are all considerably younger, to boot the children are dual national UK and Swiss but have been given as the latter here. This might be very interesting...
You could email the European Union Citizens Advice Service who either will advise the correct procedure- Or advise how to raise the issue via the EU Commission.
http://www.ecas-citizens.eu/content/view/317/336/
The campaign to get proper Representation to the UK Government and thereby to the British Civil Service for the 59,000 elderly British Citizens in France (450,000 in the EU outside the UK) continues. The above is an example of why representation is needed! The British politicians and Civil Service appear not to understand that any problems might arise!
Visit
and add your name here
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/43238
My wife and I had (UK issued) EHIC cards on arrival in France 6 years ago. They have since expired. My wife is in receipt of a govt old-age pension (I’m not until next year). She must now apply to her UK pension dept for a Form S1. That S1 is then sent to the International Pensions Team (in Newcastle) who issue her with the EHIC. However in my case (as a non-pensioner) nobody seems to want to give me an EHIC. I vivited my local CPAM, showed them my Carte Vitale, and they said no - it was for UK to issue. I contacted UK and they said no - I couldn’t have one from them; yet they issued me one in the first place ! So I give in - until next year when I’m 65.
You coud always try ringing for one. I've done this for me and the kids through the RSI and now that I have changed regime through the CPAM - simples !
That’s disgusting.
Thank you Jane, still struggling to get any sense out of Newcastle at the moment and they keep cutting me off might just take out insurance
When we came to live in Burgundy in July, 2009, we already had a UK EHIC card, but we had to change to one issued in France by the CPAM when we got our carte vitale.
The regulations then changed and we received a form from Newcastle to the effect that we had to reapply for a UK issued EHIC. This applied to all UK pensioners living In France in possession of a form E121, now S1 issed by Newcastle overseas health department.
As previously stated in some posts, you will definitely need to obtain your EHIC from the UK. Even if the CPAM issues you with one, which is possible because they still do not know all the ins and outs of the system, it will not be valid in the UK.
I hope this helps.
Don't forget the lined Barbour up there ;-)
Thank you too Brian - weird how I'd not heard of it before.
The EHIC enables you to receive health care when visiting another State within the EU/EEA. The costs are transferred back to your State 'competent' (as the EU regulation calls it) for your social security. if you come under the French system via CPAM , then it will be France.
If you are under the British Social Security (as are most British pensioners) then oddly enough it will be Britain. This is so even if you are 100% resident in France and visit Spain (for example). Your medical care would be provided by Spain but eventually paid for by the UK.
I understand that the EHIC (English acronym) is the same as the CEAM (French acronym)
The EHIC is a credit card type structure and it is wise to keep it with the passport.We should all be aware of the support the EU gives us.
Thanks Brian - better get one for my hols in Coupar Angus then. (I did ask for Italy again, but it's Coupar this year) - I'll send a postcard!
Carte Européenne d'Assurance Maladie (CEAM) simply does something similar to your Carte Vitale by saying you are entitled to public medical assistance/treatment in line with EU/EEA regulations and the various agreements between countries. You need it out of France in all EU/EEA countries and a few more who have agreed to accept it (for instance Albania if you happen to be down that way). Get it from CPAM or RSI as appropriate. That is about it really. You still really need travel insurance because what it offers is limited, basically great if somebody runs you over or the hotel gives you food poisoning but useless if you have a toothache.
Hello, this EHIC is all new to me. Is it something which is required or advisable to have when travelling outside of France.
I'm fully in the French system and have a complementary mutuelle, but I have never heard of the EHIC before today, so a brief rundown on it and it's functionalities would be great if anyone has the time to spare.
Thanks
Votre situation actuelle au regard de l'Assurance Maladie ne vous permet pas de recevoir une CEAM, veuillez contacter votre caisse.
That's what happens - in fact my husband has one of those long term treatment notices - he is entitled to everything free from CPAM as he has cancer - this happened just last year so he has worked here for 5 years... so you would think he would be covered? - He still works of course...
We work here as non salaried agricultural workers. we are not in receipt of state pensions and have been here for 5 years - I never go back to the UK . we have always paid tax- they still insist we have to make our case to st Brieuc! - I went to switzerland recently and had to get private insurance because they would not issue the card online.
Bear in mind neither UKIP nor Cameron is proposing to leave the EEA which is the point, thus it is NOT as simple as EU only. Incidentally, many people like myself who will receive only a small part of the so-called minimum pension have entitlement from elsewhere, in my case Germany. There are tens of thousands of people who have spent more years out of the UK system than in which quantitative systems analyses (statistics to lay people) do not include although they receive payments. I reiterate my concern with the folly of leaving the EU if that happens but warn caution in so fervently scaring people about something that may well not happen. Brian, please moderate the way you go about it! Do not set a panic in motion that may never be necessary, also appreciate the fact that thus far the track record of epetitions is lamentable so do not build up false hopes if the worst happens.