Does the following report contain any truth?
If it is then EVs are doomed.
Australia’s first hydrogen car comes to market, complete with charging stations in just 5 minutes. The car travels 900 kilometers with the tank full and purifies the air as it moves forward.
For the first time, hydrogen fuel cell technology is being applied serialized in a commercial car and, above all, it allows for such important autonomy, with very reduced charging times.
This is Hyundai Nexo, a small-cylinder car that beats all car manufacturers in the world and sets a sustainability record, with a charge of 6.27 kilograms of hydrogen that purifies 449,100 liters of air during the journey (as much as the consumption of breathing of 33 people for a whole day) and it only emits water down your exhaust pipe. This car produces no CO2 or other polluting emissions; just think that an equivalent vehicle, with a traditional combustion engine, emits about 126 kg of CO2 at the same distance.
The hydrogen engine thus enters the automobile market and intends to join the electric one among the sustainable mobility solutions the world is adopting. Hyundai thus becomes the first automaker in the world to produce a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle for the market.
It’s the usual hydrogen argument. I don’t deny the stats, but…
There’s no point in having a hydrogen vehicle unless the fuel is produced with no carbon emissions i.e green hydrogen. This is in short supply at the moment.
Even if green hydrogen is produced at scale the energy loses in the process are several times higher than if the same energy sources were used to charge EVs directly.
I find it incomprehensible why money is being wasted on hydrogen and not being invested in renewable energy power stations.
Hydrogen will require plants to process and store the stuff. It will then need fleets of vehicles delivering it to retail outlets, presumably converted petrol service stations whose existence will be increasingly pointless but still occupy valuable real estate unlike EVs which just require a few bornes in existing carparks.
I saw on Friday that Super U in Sauze Vaussais have built a new diesel/petrol station and are in the process of scrapping the old one.
It could, of course, be in order to re-use the space, either for an extension or for more car parking, but it might just be confidence in the future of liquid power.
Are you suggesting we switch from EVs to air ships (I rather like that idea) OR are you drawing attention to the fact that hydrogen is highly explosive which we put in a car and ignite to make things move.
Just kidding – pulling the leg of the “anything but electric” contingent.
After the R101 airship famously went bang, the R100 was grounded and somehow its walnut-panelled art deco lounge wound up in central Manchester’s Crown and Kettle pub, a former C18 courthouse, the rest of which was a magnificently OTT early example of the Gothic Revival (aka ‘Gothick’). Not been in there for nearly fifty years, but looking at some online photos it looks as though it’s been hacked about a bit more since then.
Not exactly close, I am in the North Dordogne near Nontron, but that place is the cheapest on the route home to top up with diesel. I used to go that way alot in bygone days and a favourite stopping place was the Centre Routier, Maison Blanche, just down the road where you join the N 10.
I won’t go too much into the Jaguar ad - but apparently they are relaunching themselves as an EV only luxury marque to compete with the likes of Bentley.
It’s a brave move, but will it prove to be a foolhardy one?
The cybertrucks are simply comical. Someone near me - I live in the very hilly rural country an hour west of Austin, Texas - has a bright red one, and another a camo one. I swear I hear the clown-car circus music when they pass by, but maybe it’s just me…
Yes my daughter had to return to her office in Dallas the other week for a meeting and she said these horrible trucks are everywhere but they keep breaking down. She reckons the ‘good ole boys’ will soon start using them for target practice especially her besties who have moved back to their home area west of San Antonio a few weeks ago and have had a house built that looks just like Bert’s bunker house in Tremors. Apparently the insurance has gone sky high on them too.
This has probably got nothing to do with the posts already made in this thread it’s simply a personal observation.
I wish that time had allowed electric cars to be introduced as an alternative to ICE engined cars not simply as a necessary replacement. Vehicles have always been an important part of my life and I currently own six registered and insured vehicles and have another, a sort of 1930s petrol engined equivalent of a modern electric bike that’s used as a piece of sculpture in my second sitting room, it’s delightful to look at and I don’t want to have it hidden away in an outbuilding.
I would like to replace one of my vehicles with an EV not because I think it’s the future or that it will save the World but because I, a lifelong petrolhead, like the idea of having an electric car to enjoy what it offers. Today I drove for nearly an hour down a dual carriageway to do some shopping in my hot hatch, a car I like so much I’ve never wanted to change. Today it was simply a car, sitting on the dual carriageway with the lorries and other cars it was out of its natural environment, I would much rather have done that sort of journey in an EV. In my ideal world I would have both, horses for courses and all that. The trouble is that the political agenda that has appeared to be forcing EVs on an largely unwilling population has split opinion and people being people bad feeling has built up between the two ends of the spectrum. The result is that many of the haters refuse to consider the advantages, they only look at the differences and cling onto what they believe makes a good car and a lot of the electric pioneers have become a bit too evangelical and talk down to the unconvinced. If only we could have had a decade or two where they existed side by side where purchase cost and useable range were less of the battleground than they have become I think more and more people would have realised that the electric option was a far better choice for them. It took me less than an hour using an electric outboard on my boat to realise that I didn’t want to go back to the heavy, noisy, dirty, fuel inefficient outboard that I had used for years, the things that overwhelmed me were the silence and the ease of use. I’m sure that if/when I get an EV I will start to feel the same way about driving as well.
Is that not where we are today? You can buy ICE various forms of hybrid or full EV.
I’d argue that a lot of it is the usual suspects using EVs as another weapon in the culture war, positioning EVs as “woke” and sharing all sorts of lies about them.
I have both an old ICE and an EV, one is for nostalgia and the other is very much the daily driver of choice.
(I rather like that idea) OR are you drawing attention to the fact that hydrogen is highly explosive which we put in a car and ignite to make things move.