How many bottles shall I put you down for?

Chateau Angelius available today at our local Leclerc:

Seems a bargain to me - fancy 6 of them?

Only 443.50€ a bottle!!!

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12, I would say. :joy:

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That’s que surprising to find it in a grand surface like Leclerc. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Grand Cru in a supermarket.

How about a dozen of the 2020 vintage ?

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They often have grand cru bordeaux in our supermarkets - even in Lidl - but we are talking a VERY different price range…

https://www.intermarche.com/produit/saint-emilion-grand-cru-vin-rouge/3250391544172

Ah, yes, I’m an idiot. Of course Angelus is a Saint Émilion. I was getting it confused with something else and thinking it was on the 1855 list. Ignore me, it’s been a long day :melting_face:

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I think it may depend on the size and location of the supermarket.

IIRC there were some quite posh bottles on sale in the Intermarché Hyper in southern Poitiers that I visited in June to stock up on wine to bring back to UK.

Well outside my budget of course!

Well our village Intermarche had the bottle I pictured. Mind you, there are obviously Saint Émilion Grand Crus and Saint Émilion Grand Crus :rofl:

Wouldn’t mind tasting the one @Mat_Davies spotted though - at someone else’s expense of course.

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6 don’t be silly :zany_face: 12 for me thanks Mat :rofl::rofl:

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There is no wine (or other drink for that matter) that is worth that kind of money.

I despise anyone who aspires to be able to pay such a premium, doubly so if their intention is just to lay it down to be sold for even more money to another obscenely rich person.

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I agree, there is perfectly nice wine sub €5, and that’s certainly all I can afford :rofl:

Why? What’s wrong with buying and selling? Is trading in goods beneath you? Is it immoral to profit from appreciation in value?

Is having more money than you inherently wrong somehow?

I honestly do not understand what you are on about.

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I took as a view that wine is to be enjoyed, not traded as an investment never to be savoured, and I’m not sure that I disagree. It’s quite sad that some are blinded to pleasure by the pursuit of money.

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Yes that’s how I read it too - not a disapproval of buying and selling in general, but of hoarding wine instead of enjoying it.

It’s a bit like ultra-rich people buying expensive paintings but then keeping them in a bank vault where nobody can see them, because they are too valuable to have at home.

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The reference to the “obscenely rich” made me think there was something more emotional involved than simply an opinion that wine is to be enjoyed. As though there was a visceral personal reaction to the price of the bottles in the original post. I stand corrected.

How about zero?

Any bottle worth over €25 is totally waisted on my raised on beige food, council estate palate.

And with French supermarket shelves full of nice wines for €5, why cast pearls before swine?

Stick to Rhone and good white Maconnay wines and you won’t be disappointed.

The disapproval of buying wine at ‘premium prices’ is doubled in the case of laying it down to sell on - doubled. The buying in the first place is apparently, subject to abhorance.

Well, some people have had such success in their endeavours that wines and other things that cost top dollar are affordable to them. It’s not the buying of, it’s how these things are regarded that might be cause for disapproval.

As assistant to Arnold Newman on a Sunday Times project to photograph ‘The Great British’, Lord Lew Grade was one of them. We set up in his boardroom where he was giving a lunch [not to us!] after the shoot.

Chateau d’Yquem is one of France’s great wines. A bottle of 2022 is €300, 2021 a mere €186. He picked up the bottle of Chateau d’Yquem from the bucket,

“Like glass of wine, lad?”

Quite the opposite with that great figure of socialism, Harold Wilson. After his session in front of the camera he offered a glass of sherry to the photographer, Arnold Newman, the Editor of the S.Times Col Sup, George Perry and the researcher, the lovely Christine Walker. Me and his minder were excluded.

He then set about a 15 minute panagyric on his time as the burser of his Oxford College, boasting about the fine wines he had bought for their cellar.

I’ve forever been blinded to money by the pursuit of pleasure.

That’s so. And parking up great cars rather than driving them. Nick Mason used to do the school run in his 250 GTO SWB from t to t. He has/had two. "… you will probably never see a 250 GTO sell for less than $40 million again"

The Thyssen-Bornemisza family donated their collection, now in the Queen Sofia Art Museum in Madrid. Sir Hans Sloane’s collection formed the basis of the British Museum.

I wonder how much this is worth? As wine, nothing. But I will never sell it

Conversation piece?

One always needs a little


Goes nicely with rozbif

I don’t do bottles any more. Too much of a grunt lugging them up The Precipice and the empties down again to the recycling. Red is 5L of ‘Vin de Union European’ at @ €12/box. I/marche

Don’t laugh! When the bloke at the dechet saw me toss the box into the skip for cardboard he said “Hey! Nice drop that, innit!”

And it makes a nice picture

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It being affordable to them isn’t in doubt. However, the treasuring of such things is distasteful in a world where poverty exists.

Give me quiet philanthropy any day.