issued now, it will be the issue date
so a 10 year Passport isnât valuable for 10 years⊠ah wellâŠ
You wouldnât be stuck in France, as you can leave with an expired passport, and the UK will let you in with one too. What you canât do is enter the Schengen area. And if you remain here without a valid passport within the zone you are formally sans papiers, so risk being fined and becoming banned from re-entering.
no quite correct⊠itâs another Brexshit benefit
whatâs not correct⊠???
Seems I have to order a new Passport to be issued before my existing 3monthâs grace comes upon me⊠(I might well be losing the plotâŠ)
yup
it was a joke
Sorry⊠my sugar levels must have zonked down this morning⊠but Iâm seeing/thinking more clearly nowâŠ
Have some cake ! to restore blood sugar levels
Just finished our tiny portions. yummy. OH is going to guard the next cake I bake⊠no giving that away !!!
It is not a requirement to have a valid passport if you are French resident.
I do not know if it is or not but I think not having one would potentially make life rather complicated, especially but not only if you wish to travel outside of France.
youâll have a reference to back that up, Iâm sure.
French resident but Third Country National?
To be fair though do we have a reference suggesting itâs not the case? When I discovered my passport had run out (during covid, so it didnât really matter as I wasnât going anywhere) I googled very long and very hard and found absolutely nothing to say either way. I was tempted to ask the embassy but, well, people here werenât having much luck with them over other things so I just got a new one and that was that. Perhaps my googling skills werenât up to much but Iâd have assumed the government would have put it in big bold letters on the relevant residency sections of their website if it was a legal requirement.
but, for a TCN, the Residency Card (CDS-WA) is not exactly a valid form of ID (although in France, I have found that it has served that way, albeit unoffcially - hospitals, for example) only a passport is.
âvalid passportâ needs an explanation⊠as a travel document there are certain conditions as to its validity - expiry date for example - but, as in the case of a Driving Licence, the entitlement to drive persists even if out of date although the law demands that the licence is in date if you wish to exercise the privileges of the licence. The same applies with my flying permits except that additional conditions apply such as medicals, type ratings and flying currency.
You donât have to have one as many other ways to prove your identity
Vous pouvez justifier votre identitĂ© par tous moyens. Vous pouvez prĂ©senter lâun des documents suivants : Titre dâ identitĂ© (carte dâ identitĂ© , passeport, permis de conduire) Autre document (acte de naissance, livret de famille, livret militaire, carte dâĂ©lecteur, carte vitaleâŠ)
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You can, but try that if CPAM, URSSAF, an employer, etc etc etc, asks for your passport because often it is also about proving your nationality, and your driving licences or birth certificates do not prove that.
Eventually you may win but who needs the hassle and delay, it it not simpler to keep your passport up to date especially since you will in any case need a passport if you want to travel outside France,
Very true, but the trouble is this wasnât actually the point. Weâve got off on a little tangent. Iâm not picking on you, I promise lol, but commenter was reacting to yourâŠ
âŠcomment and has suggested that in fact this isnât the case. It may well be much easier and quicker and more sensible to have a valid passport for all manner of reasons like youâve said here, but the crux is whether, like you thought, it is in fact a legal requirement or not, and that sadly we still donât actually have a certain answer to, although Iâve not had a look at @JaneJones link yet so perhaps that clears it up conclusively.
To be fair, the rest of my post went on to say âI think I have seen that but I could be wrong?â I was quite willing for my vague thoughts on this to be shown to be wrong.
So I appreciated the information, I now know that it is not a legal requirement, but my knee jerk reaction was that personally I see sound reasons for having one nonetheless.
Apologies, I should have thanked Phil Graham for his input before commenting, and also thank you to Jane Jones for supplying the link.