Poor diet due to low income?

It is happening here, just like in UK… not easy for many folk…

Remember Jamie Oliver, the abuse he took from some defending their terrible diets and obsession with fast food. Not always about money, sometimes about intelligence.


A poor diet is down to personal choice.
Many vegetables, pulses and grains are really reasonably priced.
Chicken and some fish can be purchased reasonably and there are
a million ways to cook chicken.
Not to mention the great soups which can be made with the carcasses.
Chefs grasp publicity opportunities when they can John.

These days Barbara it’s also often about ignorance. Kids are no longer taught cookery skills in school and parents are often too busy/lazy to teach their kids themselves or maybe also don’t have the skills. Also a lot of convenience food, especially in the UK/US, has become cheaper than buying and preparing the food for yourself.

I’ve seen TV programs where kids can’t identify common veg or have no idea where eggs & milk come from. It’s a seriously shameful situation and I applaud Jamie Oliver’s attempt to educate and change attitudes.


I saw a cauliflower on a market in Normandy 4.5 Euro crazy. In the UK a fresh chicken can be bought for between £2 and £2.50 from Lidl or Waitrose not much of an excuse for poor diet on a monetary level.

But when Tesco are selling a 314g Pizza for 67p it’s an awful lot cheaper and easier than cooking anything from scratch.

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I think Mandy has pretty much got it spot on.

IMO if the likes of Jamie O can change people’s attitudes to cooking healthy food then we should applaud it regardless of what we might think the motive is.


yes food is exspensive here.
We do seem to help each other more here…
People give veg and fruit to each other and my friend dries her own prunes
and figs with a little machine ( her husband does not help!)
She goes to work a few days a week, cooks, walks the dog, does knitting and
manages to have hobbies and friends.

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Thank you Tim. :+1:

Yes Tim if Jamie Oliver is a good influence then great.
You never miss a trick do you?
When restaurant companies go bust in UK they take people with them.
A lot of people go through hell.
But the directors come out of it sweetly with their millions untouched.

That is not the way I could work.
Restaurant managers know when things go wrong. The signs are very apparent.
I had a restaurant in London which, at one time was one of the top 50 in UK and my
skills in finance were bad but when things were not going so well I could tell;
In spite of everything we turned every thing round and no one lost their job and no debts
were incurred.
Not sure if I could sleep at night if I had to pull down the curtain in finale on 30 restaurants and
say “bye”.

You do not just run out of money you have to create that situation.

Well the Waitrose or Lidl chicken at 2 quid to £2.50 will no doubt have been intensively reared and chicken per se does not a good diet make…For me I’d buy the organic cauliflower at €4.50 and probably make 3 to 4 meals out of it…for my raw fed border collies whilst I do buy human grade for them from a Supermarket I’m nevertheless conscious of the way that meat may have arrived on the shelf…

Me too. I buy good food for us and the cats.
Fortunately we can afford to do that.
You really can taste the difference and you do not need massive portions.

Barbara, just this once I let that comment slide.:wink:


Well done Tim… :relaxed:

I need to go off to cook dinner…so what are you letting slide.
I was there Tim in London.
Not sure about your eyes but you need good eyes for chopping the shallots.
Have a good evening and enjoy your dinner…every one.