True, but infinitely regrettable, Mat. Mrs Thatcher, who championed the property–owning democracy, was contemptuous of ideals, as in her statements about “people who drool and drivel that they care”, and “there is no such thing as society”.
Many young people have inherited the bitter ideals-starved harvest of out-of-reach property prices and exorbitant rents. So, in my view, it is unsurprising that they are hungry for a poltical remedy for the social blight that afflicts them in UK. And the possibilty that modern socialism holds out some hope for change, in which they have a part to play.
David Cameron made a hash of trying to negotiate a deal wirh the EU that would stop the Tory dissidents from threatening to go to UKIP so then he played Russian roulette with a whole nation and lost. The man should be on tv everyday apologising for singlehandedly setting the UK back 20 years.
Why does someone think they’re capable of running a country because they’ve been to private school and married a toff.
How a conservative has the gall to criticise Labour after Cameron and May I’ll never know.
‘they would have gotten away with leaving the running machine broke and not so many people would of left the gym.(sic)
Britain was an influential member of the gym’s management team, they are not only going to miss out on future benefits to their own well being but they have seriously let down many other members as well. Remind me, which other members have left the gym?
Morning David, one of us is missunderstanding the analogy. My contributions are based on the Eu parliment being the managment and the british people are the members. Sorry if ive got it wrong or you have misunderstood me.
Afternoon David, not sure what year the last time the UK was truly influential in Europe maybe 1945 when we helped liberate Europe or even possibly 1997 when Katrina and the Waves singing Love Shine a Light won euro-vision. On understanding the E.U we are just lucky there are people out there that have well balanced views and pleased to have a discussion so conversations can be had and maybe just maybe opinions changed.
Afternoon Paul, please take some of my comments with a pitch of salt as we all know we have no influence at all in regards to Eurovision . Thanks for the link i promise i will have a read.
Originally I though along these lines but I have since changed my mind somewhat.
It is worth reading Nick Clegg’s book which covers the background to the referendum as well as the article by Daniel Korski and some of Ivan Rogers’ thoughts.
Cameron did win some important concessions - now rather lost in the mists - but he was never going to make significant headway on restricting FoM itself. He also, I think, realised that the UK viewed the EU differently (as has been said the UK views the EU project as more an affair of the head than an affair of the heart) and that we were , as he put it - headed to a different destination within the EU, not merely to the same destination at a different speed.
Ultimately there were legitimate reasons to put it to debate - beyond just trying to silence the Eurosceptics in the Tory party.
Where Cameron did, unforgivably IMO, screw up was in turning an advisory referendum into a binding one with all his “I’ll send the Article 50 letter the day after the vote” rubbish.
Who does control the E.U. then if it’s not its members? I really think you have no idea about how it works and what part Britain played in it. Perhaps you had better go back to the gym and get your money’s worth there.
No, referenda. Plural of most single Latin nouns ending in - um is - a. Plural of common single nouns ending in -us is - i. Plural of single noun ending in - a is usually - ae. There many exceptions, though.
Referendum, literally translated, means “that (thing) which must/is to be sent back/referred”.
I was waiting for a swot to put me right As my old friend (long dead) used to say " if I can learn something different every day then I shall be pleased". So thank you for giving me this pleasure today Peter
You are VELCVM (Roman letters) - Romans pronounced V as we pronounce W and as the French pronounce le HOUeekend.
Gives me much pleasure to impart this fossilised twaddle too, Ann!
PS you could return the compliment and let me know if, in your corner of France, people drink coffee by spooning it into their mouths from a small cup. It seems to be a commonplace domestic habit here, but Stella says she’s not seen it, and she’s the doyenne of French curiosities!
. Thanks for the link i promise i will have a read.
As my old friend (long dead) used to say " if I can learn something different every day then I shall be pleased". So thank you for giving me this pleasure today Peter 
