Russell Brand

Part of the problem is that “the talent” generally holds all the cards in terms of power and financial resources which can make it very difficult for victims to take formal action.

Even without those dynamics it can be very difficult for a victim of sexual violence to report to the authorities, whether that’s an expectation that they won’t be believed, not wanting to relive the experience through testimony to the police and healthcare workers or simply the fear of it becoming public knowledge.

It takes a lot of courage for a woman to stand up and report a sexual assault and if the press does thorough, and evidenced, investigation that supports women to come forward then I’m all for it.

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Nearly as much as a man.

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I agree. A nasty bit of work from the start. slick though. Anyone who could write something called My Booky Wooky shoukd be avoided at all costs. He was known about for some time, no one did a thing.

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Fair point.

but I wonder why the plaintiffs waited ten years to make the accusations against him - just at a time when his massive viewership is beginning to expose some people in high places?
Some could conclude that there are people who want him silenced.

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Me for one :joy:

Things have changed enoumously over the last ten years Geoff. Those that might have been afraid to come forward before now feel more confident that their claims will not be summarily dismissed. The “she was asking for it” attitude is gradually eroding.

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People coming forward years after abuse is not uncommon, in fact it seems to be an increasingly trope of many of these celebrity ‘abuse’ cases. Lots of reasons people don’t initially come forward, or their original complaints aren’t heeded.

Nevertheless, last night I was watching an interview on Fr24 with a young man (not a child, or a teenager) who’d been seduced/raped by a senior elderly Catholic cleric and said that he didn’t know what to do to stop him!!!

So often there’s this ‘seduction’ of the immature and credulous that’s not confined to adolescents…

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He has not been charged so therefore innocent until found guilty. The media has already found him guilty meaning his trial should there be one, will be made more difficult than otherwise. Like another poster wrote, Allegations.

Can I refer you to my post of 15 hours ago about why people don’t report sexual abuse.

I’m with @John_Scully on this one in that I’d be quite happy if he was silent for a bit.

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yes I accept that abused people do not always come forward at the time of the event - it is just that this one seems a bit orchestrated to me especially as the complainants are unidentified, almost like certain people or groups want him silenced.
This is happening a lot now and although I don’t know RB (I have never watched his show) I defend to the utmost his and the right of others to free speech.
He should be assumed innocent until and if he is proved otherwise.

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And yet Kevin Spacey went through a trial and was found not guilty.

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Don’t forget poor Sir Cliff who suffered dreadfully at the end of malicious accusations that were unfounded and untrue. Weinstein on the other spectrum got his just deserts.

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Must say, normally there is no smoke without fire, but as many have said already, important to reserve judgement until all the facts are known and revealed. On the other hand, as a person, I find the guy quite abhorrent and could not bare to watch or listen to him. Far far more pleasant folks out there deserving of everyone’s time. And yes, it sells news, which is what journalists obviously thrive on, and the more dramatic and shocking, the better very sadly.

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Please tell me that’s a typo. :worried:

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Yes, but did you ever really think he was guilty? I would have been surprised, I wasn’t surprised about Savile. Maybe boys that went to private schools run by Catholic priests have an certain acquired intuition :thinking:

I sincerely hope that’s not a euphemism!

I came through Catholic primary school unsullied - but that was with the Sisters of Mercy a (massive misnomer!)

I don’t like him. He’s creepy. And he’s unfunny. I think we can dispense with a trial, do not pass go etc.
Not my opinion but a reasonable synopsis of the foregoing.

Where sex education was a nudge about which priests to keep clear of.

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Now, I appreciate that there are many places to watch video content online, but there is one absolute behemoth who try as we may, no one has managed to create a viable (financial or viewership) alternative to. These numbers are not ‘massive viewership’ in any way shape or form. This is filtered by most views of all time. I have worked with clients no one here will know because they’re very niche and not an international celebrity, who can get 9.1m views in 72 hours, and 9.1 billion views in the 10 years RBs most watched video has been up, and his average seems to be between 1 and 2 million views, so I how much is actually that there’s a huge viewership or whether there’s a smaller viewership but those who are are incredibly dedicated and make a lot of noise. I will have a look at some other platforms and see what the numbers are like there, but these certainly aren’t the numbers I’d have expected from his YouTube. A million is a good number, but with 8 billion people on earth and YouTube being infamous for inflated figures, it’s surprisingly meh.

How’s that @vero?:wink::joy:

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Ugh he is so repulsive, you should have put a warning!

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