Following on from my comment above (having been reading & thinking on the subject).
If the Tories & Labour split along Leave/Remain grounds at their respective conferences (certainly possible for the Tories, less so for labour) and the Remain/centrist parts of both joined forces under a suitably charismatic leader (not totally sure who that would be), forced a no-confidence vote and stood in the ensuing GE on a centre ground, Remain position I think that it would easily sweep to power.
My own much-loved library of opinions is showing signs of wear and tear, the binding has fallen of the most frequently consulted volumes, the chapters hopelessly mixed up, the pages dog-eared, yellowing, brittle and tea-stained,
with smudged pencilled comments (How true! Surely not? Yes!! etc.) and heavy underlinings.
So I am now weary, confused and almost bereft of anything to opine.
Never mind, tomorrow is another day, and I shall make myself a strong cup of tea and have a couple of digestive biscuits. That always causes the sap to rise! Tally Ho!
The Lib Dem website has a register option to show your support for Centrist policies without actually joining.
I believe that the idea is to show the opinions of those who donât actually want to join a political party.
Sandy this is what Brexit is about, returning the power to the country instead of being told how it will be done by Brussels. The injection of common sense would only happen if that bunch of âarse wipersâ in parliament are all thrown out of the door lock stock and barrel and replaced by Joeâs of the streets. There is more common sense walking the pavements than ever will be in parliament. Oh and ditch the house of lords, the lazy good for nuttin dobbins.
Oh <deity> Roger, donât make me laugh - Brexit or not we still need interacct with the rest of the world - which means compromise and agreeing to abide by rules made by others. The truth of the modern world is that the big trading blocks call the shots - the US, China and the EU. As part of the latter we had a voice. Alone we will have a tiny mouse sized squeak on the world stage.
It is certainly more to do with the impending financial controls that the EU is proposing that some very rich (and therefore able to influence) are particularly keen to ensure that they are not restricted.
There is also the suggestion that certain people will have plenty to gain if an insurance based health system is intruduced.
Itâs this âus and themâ thing that Leavers cling to, somehow forgetting that it is a collective and that the EU will stand by its members much more strongly than non-members, weâre part of the fucking team.
So, you support Leave but will be insulated from quite a few of its potential negative effects - bit hypocritical no?
If you rely on a UK pension, prepare to tighten your belt; donât expect me to cry for you though.
If we wound up with something similar to France perhaps not, but the way things are going we will more likely wind up with something like the US where the biggest single cause of personal bankruptcy is trying to fund healthcare and things like this and this happen.
No i dont think it is any more hypocritical than all the scaremongering going from the remainer side.
I dont rely on a UK pension, so you can spend the tissue money on something else.
I wouldnt want a US system, but an insurance based system would improve the healthcare in the UK which at the present time doesnt even get into the top 20 on the worlds list, 7 european countries have made the top 20 with Holland being the number 1, with Germany, Switzerland, France etc following up. Soyes an insurance based system i think would be very beneficial.
Well if you are not relying on a UK pension I would say that it is extremely hypocritical to advocate a course of action which will leave millions materially worse off but which will cause you no hardship whatever.
As to âall the scaremongering going from the remainer sideâ, what exactly?
Weâll get one because the present Tory government thinks deregulation is the answer to preventing economic collapse following Brexit so it will rapidly descend to the lowest cost base/maximal profit - not to mention the fact that US pharma is salivating at the prostect of hamstringing NHS drug price negotiating - which costs it billions worldwide as other countries use NHS prices as their yard-stick.
But, of course, you couldnât give a sh*t because you are insulated by the French system.
âI was spending $2,880 a month just to keep myself alive - that was more than I was making even working 50 hours a week,â says Ms Marston."
She was forced to leave her home in Richmond, Virginia, to find a new job in Washington DC to ensure she could pay for insulin."
Now predict which of the following responses might best reflect the opinion of someone with whom others of Rocamâs persuasion (but categorically not Rocam himself) might agree strongly:
âSuck it upâ
âLife isnât fair, live with itâ
âSnowflakeâ
âYouâve gotta die some dayâ
âShouldâve laid off the Donutsâ
âYou win some, you lose someâ
âThereâs no such thing as a free lunchâ
âDonât tell me your problems, I got plenty of my ownâ
âSome people are just born unlucky, itâs the way the cookie crumblesâ
âThere are lots of charities that look after people who canât fend for themselvesâ
âTough shitâ
âHard Cheeseâ
âSocialised medicine is the first step towards a communist stateâ
âGo to Cubaâ
âStop whingeing, man upâ
âMake America Great Againâ
âDiabetes is not native to people of the Aryan race, itâs due to an inherited non-Aryan geneâ
âFake news. All fake newsâ
All my own work, in the spirit of comradely mutual understanding! And as the Devilâs Advocate.