Spain has the courage to say it like it is

" ‘Blunt rejection’ of US-Israeli attack on Iran and ‘call to learn from mistakes of the past’ - snap analysis

Sam Jones (Guardian)

in Madrid

Sánchez’s defiant speech may have been made in response to Trump’s threat to cut off all trade with Spain, but his words were also aimed every bit as much at other EU leaders (and at Spain’s political class).

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Spanish prime minister Pedro Sánchez Photograph: Fernando Calvo/MONCLOA PALACE/EPA

The PM was keen to stress that his government’s refusal to facilitate the attacks on Iran was firmly in line with its stance on Ukraine and Gaza.

He repeatedly insisted that a long and unpredictable war with Iran would only bring more death, more global uncertainty and more economic upheaval.

Not for nothing did he invoke the 2003 invasion of Iraq – the massively controversial and counterproductive military adventure that was so enthusiastically backed by Spain’s conservative prime minister at the time, José María Aznar:

“A war that, in theory, was said to be waged to eliminate Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, bring democracy, and guarantee global security, but which, in reality, seen in retrospect, produced the opposite effect. It unleashed the greatest wave of insecurity our continent has suffered since the fall of the Berlin Wall.”

While no one could predict the exact course of the Iran conflict, he added, “what we do know is that a fairer international order will not emerge from it. Nor will it produce higher wages, better public services, or a healthier environment”.

In one of the most pointed passages of the speech, Sánchez also took aim at those who use war as a diversionary tactic, or as a means of enriching their cronies:

“It is absolutely unacceptable that those leaders who are incapable of fulfilling this duty use the smokescreen of war to hide their failure and, in the process, line the pockets of a select few – the same ones as always; the only ones who profit when the world stops building hospitals and starts building missiles.”

All in all, the speech is a blunt rejection of the US and Israel’s strikes and a call for Europe to learn from the mistakes of the past, to stand together, and to respect international law.

His words stand in sharp, and uncomfortable, contrast to the more weaselly utterances of others.

Let’s see how his fellow leader respond to the call in the final section:

The government of Spain stands with those it must stand with. It stands with the values that our parents and grandparents enshrined in our constitution.

Spain stands with the founding principles of the European Union. It stands with the Charter of the United Nations. It stands with international law and, therefore, stands with peace and peaceful coexistence between countries and their harmonious coexistence.

We stand with many other governments that share our views, and with millions of citizens throughout Europe, North America, and the Middle East, who ask not for more war or uncertainty, but more peace and prosperity. Because the former only benefits a few. And the latter benefits us all.”

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EU hits back at Trump over Spain trade threats with hint of warning it could retaliate

Lisa O’Carroll (Guardian)

The EU has hit back at Donald Trump’s threats to halt all trade with Spainover its decision not to allow the US use its military bases for Iran bombing missions.

The EU said it expected the US president to “honour” its bloc-wide tariff deal concluded last year but hinted at the possibility of retaliatory measures if Trump did isolate Spain in a revenge move.

“The Commission will ensure that the interests of the European Union are fully protected. We stand in full solidarity with all Member States and all its citizens and, through our common trade policy, stand ready to act if necessary to safeguard EU interests,” said trade spokesperson Olof Gill.

He continued:

Trade between the European Union and the United States is deeply integrated and mutually beneficial.

Safeguarding this relationship, particularly at a time of global disruption, is more important than ever and clearly in the interest of both sides.

The EU and the United States concluded a major trade deal last year. The European Commission expects the United States to fully honour the commitments undertaken in the joint statement of last August.

The EU is continuing to honour its part of that deal, allow many US goods into the bloc tariff free, even though the US supreme court ruled Trump’s 15% tariffs on EU goods were illegal.”

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All the stuff we buy is made in China, anyway, we should just cut out the middle man, the US :joy:

(I know.l it’s a joke :face_with_hand_over_mouth:, or is it?)

A colleague who had been on assignment in Beijing for five years passed through my office in Dubai in 1997. He predicted China’s rise but I woefully underestimated the scale.

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What actually do we need from the USA?

Change of regime, their regime.

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I cannot recall the last American thing I bought. I actually try and avoid all of it.

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I checked Amazon.com and, ironically, it was a couple of these in 2022.

https://www.amazon.com/GoFloats-Cheeseburger-Party-Tube-Hamburger/dp/B01N158IGT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3U5BSAXYYLJU0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yyC3Imda0zcrIc8QYcF2WVjSFs8x_bXttEP-7selqZB-0P3ewSbKbztZ8Lis9EbNpJXy8xW_NnnZb9ZC5o4UzBrm1xHyZR1BgCJi6SqAD8KC2NfsOWmtP5hUPNn22nrR_IuF0tIL9Y1L966p1520vqcKDRFio5g8Ky67w4J7WnFXhr7fHyagKoB7ROXIes3ssVzjSOm6IZg5H18wCc9yuAN1-nFoTYk5fc39D4fJU7Qb-R2Pn3ex0gBlj3JO1cHP5Ii90NfVTDEUTpIh9ZJu9d10aZnM-Dfgf5MvO7tFRQs.mrLOs4l_gjnqJhVIIgn3n7bw0eiRIUaFQVupUZKXNOY&dib_tag=se&keywords=GoFloats+Cheeseburger+Party+Tube&qid=1772629353&sprefix=gofloats+cheeseburger+party+tube+%2Caps%2C598&sr=8-1

US floating burger technology (made in China) is without par.

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Any threat against member state is threat against the EU,’ commissioner responds to Trump’s comments

EU internal market commissioner Stéphane Séjourné is the latest high-profile name to express solidarity with Spain over Trump’s comments last night.

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EU commissioner Stéphane Séjourné speaks during a press conference in Brussels, Belgium.Photograph: Olivier Matthys/EPA

At the end of a press briefing in Brussels, the French politician said in Spanish (he grew up in Spain and Argentina):

Any threat against member state is by definition threat against the EU. This is a competence of the EU trade.

I want to be very clear here, from this point of view, the EU’s competency on trade is actually dealt with by the Commission.

If you threaten one particular country… well, that’s we’ve seen that about Greenland. I think we saw that there was a lot of unity.

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Merz screwed up :roll_eyes:

Séjourné’s comment send clear signal to US on trade - snap analysis

Jennifer Rankin

in Brussels

Séjourné’s comments serve as a not-so-gentle reminder for Trump that the European Commission is responsible for handling trade policy for its 27 member states.

Earlier on Wednesday a Commission spokesperson said it stood ready “to act if necessary to safeguard EU interests”.

However, Séjourné did not respond to a question as to whether Friedrich Merz ought to have stood up for Spain in front of Trump.

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France’s Macron expresses solidarity with Spain in response to threats of ‘economic coercion’ from Trump

Sam Jones

in Madrid

French president Emmanuel Macron contacted Spain’s Pedro Sánchez on Wednesday to express France’s “European solidarity” in the face of recent threats from US President Donald Trump, according to a report from the Spanish Efe news agency.

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Spanish prime minister Pedro Sánchez is greeted by French President Emmanuel Macron ahead of meeting in Paris, France in March 2025. Photograph: Tom Nicholson/Getty Images

“The president just spoke with prime minister Sánchez to express France’s European solidarity in response to the recent threats of economic coercion launched yesterday against Spain,” sources at the Élysée Palace told Efe.

Macron’s contact was also reported by the French media.

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Seems Spain has had a change of heart and will now cooperate with the US military operation.:thinking:

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Spain is saying otherwise, according to the Graun.

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The US seems incredibly proud of sinking a frigate and murdering 80 Iranian sailors, especially given that no declaration of war has been given. It’s all a video game to those in charge. And of course the denials are thick and strong for bombing/murdering 175 in a school.

Hard to imagine why other countries aren’t lining up to join this blood fest

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The sheer joy he was displaying at the death of those sailors was disgusting. A complete lack of dignity and grace.

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I wonder whether the submarine commander gave the frigate the opportunity to surrender, and whether or not the submarine surfaced after the sinking to pick up survivors bearing in mind that by that time there was no possible threat to the safety of the submarine.

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Unfortunately, Iran has sent a missile to an American base in Turkey, it was shot down, but this worrying. A NATO country after all has been targeted. Not enough to trigger article 5, but what’s

So, will Trump get his peace prize, like f..k he will.

As far as I can tell from the media reports, the frigate’s survivors were picked up by the Sri Lankan navy. The US did not attempt to rescue anyone - too interested in taking photos of the explosion. The frigate was transiting home after participating in training exercises hosted by the Indian navy at the time of the strike. India had convened naval assets from 74 countries for a March exercise.

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Nope, that is just another lie from the US liar in chief

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Bollox Tim :slightly_smiling_face: it’s the other way around, other, countries are following their lead. This is serious stuff.

So you condone an illegal war, albeit against a shit regime?

How about a strike on Saudi post 9/11 (look at who did it) or on nuclear equipped North Korea? Both even more foul regimes than the fanatics in Iran.

But the US won’t touch 'em. No, it prefers to support the worst, most expansionist , nuclear equipped, apartheid, religiously fanatical country, Israel, and its associated (pearl clutching) whinging US voters in the US. Go figure :slightly_smiling_face:

There’s no difference between Vance, Hegseth and Rubio and their Nazi equivalents, they are just following their demented Führer, And let’s face it who would want to be a Rudolph Hess by telling the truth, though the demented Marjorie Taylor Greene is half way there.

I despise islamic fundamentalism, indeed any religious or political fundamentalism, but the Israeli and US political scum have me cheering for Iran. And I am sure there are millions like me. I hope Israel and the US reap what they have sowed.

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Donald rang me yesterday afternoon to say “tell Mr Scully that my threat of tariffs has worked and Spain are now onboard”. I was merely repeating what he said.:grinning_face: