Stop The Boats

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The latest Tory mantra :roll_eyes:

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Have they lost their minds?

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Not just their minds but knowledge of grammar too since

You will be denied access to the UK’s modern slavery system

makes it sound like rather than being denied access to PROTECTION FROM, AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO GET OUT OF modern slavery, you just won’t be allowed to be a slave, something I’d argue by it’s nature no one chooses to be :woman_shrugging::sweat_smile:

Seriously though, these people are evil, what can you say? Nothing they said or tried to implement would shock me at this point, evil really is the best word.

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The government has missed the boat here :yum:, combine both and work for P&O Ferries :wink:

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yes, and they probably spent millions creating that graphic from public funds as it seems to be an official Govt publication :roll_eyes:

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There is currently a hue and cry in the Tory support tabloids about a tweet by Gary Linekar saying he rhetoric is reminiscent of Germany in the early 1930s. Hysterical reaction of horror by the far right threatening “billions” of “illegals” reaching UK should be offed to Rwanda.

All we can say is to repeat the words of German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984):

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Words matter. Hearing Braverman call human beings “illegals” and “rich” are labels to dehumanise. Saying that “billions will come to UK” is to strike fear into British residents. Some will take up cudgels and incendiary devices and stand outside asylum seekers temporary residences.

Words can be poison.

At its very least, the poison causes apathy and a public who do doing nothing to protect the desperate who seek safety in our shores.

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@Susannah its a sad reflection, isn’t it, that possibly the first born of the generation who fought in the 2 world wars to remove such oppression are seemingly now at the forefront of those calling for and supporting these measures - shameful!

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Call me cynical but given the Tory party post 2016 is all about stirring up a culture war on anything they can it wouldn’t surprise me if they know exactly what they’re doing here, and that this is all about having this ridiculous ’stop the boats’ stuff struck down by the courts so that just as they did previously they can call the judges ‘enemies of the state’ and blame it all on the evil woke liberal agenda, knowing that their only hope in the next election will be from gammons and extremists. The more they can make it about not being able to ‘take back sovereignty’, ‘protect our borders’ and blame it on to ‘woke lefties’, the ECHR and others rather than admitting that it’s potentially an illegal policy that they actually have no chance of implementing, the more chance they’ve got of getting that section of the voting public who would normally vote for them but are disgusted by their recent scandals so would either not vote in protest or vote for Reform UK, UKIP, or an independent candidate, to come back.

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What, are they precluded from ever working for the gig economy?

Anyway, they could solve the small boats problem overnight. Put refugees/migrants on big boats (AKA ships) and process them swiftly on arrival. As in “take back control” as somebody once said :joy: Stop using Calais as a buffer.

Having expended the “it’s all the EU’s fault” mantra the desperate tories trying to develop a “it’s all the ECHR’s fault” replacement for their own incompetence.

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Even if this latest crazy plan was to work(which it won,t),the asylum seekers would just go back to old methods of arriving in the back of lorries for example.The UK Government have dropped yet another clanger by wording the new laws in such a specific manner i.e small boats.

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Yes and cause the poor innocent lorry drivers a ÂŁ2,000 fine for each undetected (by the drivers) stowaway.

I bought a strong padlock for the doors of my trailer for whenever I went to England.
After a night parked at Calais I found the doors open, the padlock cut with bolt cutters lying on the ground.
I should have left the doors open because I was empty, just off the ferry having come from Blighty without a backload. :astonished: :rofl:

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The French government has suggested that the UK government could set up a processing centre in France where refugees can make application and be processed in France. Only refugees that were accepted would then go over to the UK. You would think that this would be an ideal option for any government, but then it wouldn’t create any of the bile, invective or moral outrage that the current government bill is intended to create.

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Absolutely, and I have been saying that for quite a long time, but haven’t they tried something similar with the Ukrainians at the outset of that war?

They were directed to an office in Lille but no-one was there. :roll_eyes:

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Indeed. From there, I believe they were sent back to Calais where an office was supposed to be up and running to take their application. The ‘office’ consisted of a desk, hidden under a stairwell, with a small sign, no person present, inside a locked building.
A bit like the Douglas Adams line - It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.

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It is hard indeed in these times, with this government, not to become a rip roaring cynic.

The release of those WhatsApp texts between Hancock and colleagues says much to me of the tone and tenor within the Tory party when they think no one else can hear. The complete disdain and disrespect for the British electorate they are in theory supposed to serve takes a bus back seat to protecting their jobs.

All his PMQ bluster about protecting the tax payers from ‘illegal migrants’ taking the jobs and hospital beds away from good, honest British citizens. :face_vomiting:.

What is happening to the UK and who are these heartless, horrid people masquerading as caring Brits?

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I think the issue is that there wouldn’t be grounds to refuse all of them, which is what the Tories actually want. They can’t stomach that refugees don’t have to seek asylum in the first country they arrive in, and setting up a processing centre in France would create a viable “legal route” into the UK. That’s the last thing that want.

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There’s no apparent end to this awfulness


Is it legal?

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I think Lineker was spot on with his comments - he referenced Germany in 1930s and as per the poem you quote the exact same approach is being taken. Control the media, blame a group for all of the problems in UK, by definition this group cannot themselves complain. Then challenge the legal system (again) - it is all too familiar to those who have studied the Weimar Republic and The Third Reich.

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So Lineker as a private individual (because apparently he is not under contract to the BBC, he is a freelancer) is not allowed to make a WWII related comment that many people agree with, and it is perfectly OK for ministers of His Majesty’s Government to refer to victims of oppressive regimes as an invading force that must be repelled. Dialogue at this level in the UK has become sickening.

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I think you’re exactly right.

According to GĂ©rard Darmanin, one of the UK’s attractions is its weak controls and checks on labour.

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Does the UK even have any labour inspectors?