Sounds like a little taste of prison.
Which question are we asking - UK National Front/BNP/EDL are skinheads with knuckles dragging on the ground if youâre lucky. Full blown race hate with minor political dressing.
Le Pen and the French NF are now UKIP - her father was a Holocaust Denier and full on far right. Marie has at least toned that down - its still there - but the mass support they got/get is very similar to UKIP - and with similar undertones. I understand why people voted that way - had a long conversation with neighbours which surprised me - but Macron and Le Pen were both outsiders - rural French donât trust bankers and feel disfranchised hence Le Pen. The good news they make a protest vote - then go erm we donât want that really and vote for anyone but NF in the final run off
Thanks for the clarification and apologies if I read your post out of context!
And, indeed they should not insult If I am not NF.
I once had a long lost cousin who desperately searched for me.
She has never travelled outside Lincolnshire and programmes her day
with great care.
She also worships Farrage so I no longer have a long lost cousin.
National Pride can be anyoneâs choice. The best way is to hold views without being offensive or persecuting. There are many practices of other races I donât like, bit I do not need to offend the race. Look at animal treatment in Chinese.
The UKIP of 2016 and the referendum perhaps, the runt of a party left after Farage left has now swung towards the racist right.
Barbara, I think thatâs very sad. Are her views really so abhorent to you that you would disown possible family? Iâm not judging, Iâm just curious because surely the middle ground would be that you meet and enjoy each otherâs company and donât discuss politics. Isnât it supposed to be âsex, religion and politicsâ that one never discusses at dinner? I have many friends with varying views and some at each extreme end, but it doesnât stop me enjoying their company. We just agree thereâs certain subjects upon which we will never find agreement so itâs not worth talking about.
It is really sad because it makes no sense!
Her husband is not British and could have been in a difficult position if Brexit went âfunnyâ so
voting Brexit was odd.
And she refuses to come here to France even to celebrate my special birthday late Sept.She
will not fly or cross the water and said that she does not spend her money on un necessary things.
So that last detail has left me very sad.
We have nothing in common except that we are first cousins.
Personally I cannot understand why anyone would be interested in being governed by anyone but a socialist party but each to their own. Itâs one of the things that I like about France, even when the government is right of centre socialist principles remain. Perhaps I was on the âwrongâ side of Mrs Thatcherâs divide and saw what happened when selfish attitudes took over.
I have never travelled into Lincolnshire. So have an adverse commonality with your cousin. Doesnât make me a bad personâŚor good. Lincolnshire has a very diverse demographic range. One may never need to leave or wish to enter.
Chris my cousin is not a bad person and neither am I but
she does not believe in spending money and she thinks that all the Polish people
are taking all the jobs in Lincolnshire.I have a different attitude to work and to Polish people.
Perhaps being racist is not a disagreeable thing to some people but to me it is and I find it hard
to have a relationship with such a person.
Never been to Lincolnshire and will never enter.
No way I would ! I canât stand extremism of any sort.
So if you were invited to your cousins special birthday you wouldnât go? I donât think you or your cousin are bad people, I have no reason to think so. But her view on Polish employment could be interpreted as racist.
To my mind it is!
She does not want any my foreign people coming into UK.
She votes UKIP.
I have never been invited to my cousins home!
And the whole holiday would be arranged and paid for by me
if she came hereâŚbut its over.
Niether can I
Well maybe this whole thing of her coming over is irrelevant as you seem estranged and disconnected from her. Apologies
as Iâm assuming youâve not had meaningful communication for some time. And as you say all you have in common is that you are first cousins. Just enjoy your special birthday with those that want to be there. Youâve tried with the cousin and are not getting any positives.
I think there is no valid moral or emotional reason for regret over a complete break with relatives, including parents and siblings, if the emotional tie no longer works, or no longer exists for either party.
We donât choose our âblood-lineâ kin, and we have no duty of gratefulness for the fact that there is a shared history, or that they reared us. Nor do they have any duty to us as adults.
They had a legal responsibilty for doing the latter or at least not neglecting our childish dependence on them, but we have no reciprocal duty towards them. Some, of course, feel that they have: and some do so lovingly and willingly. Some donât, and that is beyond anyone elseâs reproach, IMO.
Just put them out of your mind. Set your burden down, it is just a nuisance you are well rid of: and move on.
wise words Peter
Sandy, thank you. It took me a lifetime of guilt and fear to learn that lesson, and if it helps anyone else, and they make sense of it, Iâm happy to pass it on.