When will the UK wake up

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(Véronique Langlands) #21

“A travel document is not a passport.”

But a passport is a travel document, in France and elsewhere.


(Brian Swift) #22

No he was not a refugee. A refugee will not be given citizenship either in France or Germany. That’s why they come to the UK


(David Martin) #23

So he said. :slight_smile:
I suggest you look at the number of British passport holders who have applied for a French nationality in the past couple of years. It’s a lot. Your claim is nothing more than a racist slur and posted in the wrong place.


(Brian Swift) #24

A travel document can be issued by an embassy for someone to travel home usually. A passport is only given to a citizen or a subject.


(Brian Swift) #25

Talk to your mayor about getting French citizenship


(stella wood) #26

I think France only has Citizens or immigrants…:thinking: oh, and visitors…


(stella wood) #27

No need to talk to the Maire… get the dossier together and apply to the appropriate office…


(David Martin) #28

But you’ve told us about a refugee who was given a French passport. I lived in Germany for 36 years and met several doctors who had come to Germany as refugees but gone on to have German nationality.
You are mixing and matching stories to make an unwelcome point. This really is not the right place for your comments.


(David Martin) #29

Pull the plug please Stella.


(Véronique Langlands) #30

About 90 thousand refugees were given French citizenship in 2016, and another just under 90 thousand in 2017.
Figure for 2018 as yet unreleased but I imagine it’ll be about the same.

These are actual recognised refugees, not other types of immigrant, by the way.


(Brian Swift) #31

I never mentioned a refugee getting a French passport. I know several refugees who have been given British passports. I am not a racist or a bigot. I am a child of migrants who came to the UK to work during the war.


(David Martin) #32

(Véronique Langlands) #33

Not how it works in France.


(Warren Joiner) #34

By reading this, I’d take a guess at Brian Swiftnowthenourkid is a refugee from Anglo Info Brittany or Dordogneshire?


(David Martin) #35

Being the child of an immigrant does not entitle you to make the implications that you are making on this thread. You have confused immigrants and refugees, you have contradicted yourself and you have made false claims. A nasty bit of work all round.


(Brian Swift) #36

100,000 refugees applied for asylum in 2017. That is completely different to 100,000 getting citizenship, that would never happen in France. They will get leave to stay.


(David Martin) #37

Or one of the unpleasant Facebook groups where they enjoy quoting UKIP and posting photos of rubber dinghies.


(David Martin) #38

Did you not read Vero’s post?


(Brian Swift) #39

By granting a refugee asylum you are not making them a citizen.


(Véronique Langlands) #40

“100,000 refugees applied for asylum in 2017. That is completely different to 100,000 getting citizenship, that would never happen in France. They will get leave to stay.” Are you referring to the UK?

Ofpra figures state about 100 thousand applications for citizenship (naturalisation) of which 88odd thousand were completed.

So as I said just under 90 thousand refugees were naturalisés French in both 2016 and 2017.

Naturalisé means acquired citizenship, as I said.