Which path to take?


(Phillip Cox) #41

over 60 and you will not need an official “language certificate”, but the interview will be in French and they expect a good level.


(damian john farrow) #42

Once again I thank you for the sympathetic and helpful responses. Aside from the issues of passion and commitment I am aware that I should decide on a course of action and not rely on the fact that I have lived permanently in France for more than fifteen years as a guarantee of future security.


(Louise Johnson Eraste) #43

Hello Damian, I applied for nationality, sent off the dossier beginning of Feb last year, had my interview in september and am officially french as of mid feb this year. I applied by marriage but a friend of mine applied for naturalistaion at the same time as me and it didn’t take any longer. Live in Brittany so had interview in Rennes. Had to do french exam as under 60 , need to be level B1 minimum. Interview questions things like where did I know in France and what French food did I like, did I have french friends and if I was involved in any associations. Honestly think hardest part is just getting all the paperwork together. Was stressed about Brexit before, now relaxed. I have been in France for 20 years , husband and daughter French by birth. Glad I have done it finally (been putting it off for years but brexit gave me the push to do it) I have dual nationality . I would say go for it.


(Bill Morgan) #44

Only the inheritance issues stopping me Louise, Wife, French and I’m over 70!


(Louise Johnson Eraste) #45

don’t know much about inheritance laws - Is it not that if the proprty is in france then it falls under inheritance laws here and if in the UK then there?


(Bill Morgan) #46

That’s the problem Louise, I have an English Will, but no one has an example, of a definitive outcome, of how/if UK Law would be successfully applied to our French property, assets.


(Louise Johnson Eraste) #47

just started looking into the EU inheritance laws etc; quite complicated and obviously have no idea what’s in your will but it seems that you can opt for the british laws to cover your whole estate, english and french even if you have dual nationality; any property etc in France is subject to french tax but if you leave everything to your wife she doesn’t pay inheritance tax. Uk going out of the EU might change things I suppose and if what I read is true I bet it’s a nightmare trying to sort it out . You must have seen a notaire- do they not know?


(Bill Morgan) #48

They don’t Louise, it was them, two of them, said, the law has not, to their knowledge, been tested, that’s what concernes myself, I don’t have any UK estate, (except a Uk bank account), only French my only concern, is that my French Wife inherits ‘All’, as is my wish.


(Louise Johnson Eraste) #49

Histoire vécue

Nigel est Britannique. Retraité, il vit depuis plus de huit ans dans sa maison en France. Sa compagne, Anne, habite avec lui depuis cinq ans.

Nigel vivant en France, il serait pratique pour ses héritiers que sa succession soit exécutée par un notaire de ce pays. En principe, c’est la loi française qui régira sa succession , car la France est son dernier pays de résidence. C’est elle qui déterminera les héritiers, la part de la succession réservée aux enfants de Nigel et les droits concernant Anne, étant donné que Nigel et Anne ne sont pas mariés.

La loi anglaise donne davantage de liberté pour désigner les héritiers. Nigel décide donc d’indiquer dans son testament qu’il choisit la loi anglaise pour régir sa succession et désigne Anne comme héritière de sa propriété en France.


(Bill Morgan) #50

I’ll have to get Babeth to look at that Louise :slightly_smiling_face:


(Ann Chassagnard) #51

I just read through this thread quickly.
I have only a passing knowledge of these issues but I see that Inheritance Tax Laws are of interest/concern to you,

I am sure someone here can fill in the details, but the ‘gifting’ options (ie. permanently giving away a percentage of your estate per year to another person) are more generous in France than they are in the UK. This allows portions of your assets to be passed over to another person so they will not then be part of the Inheritance tax equation. Perhaps this might also be an option to look into, regardless of your citizenship status, if your main concern is passing over benefits to your wife?


(Dan Wood) #52

Hi Loiuse - I thought both you and @Bill Morgan would find these interesting. I have written a Will with the help of our Notaire in which l opt for the UK succession regulations to apply once l die. We made reference to Regulation 12 and have registered the Will. The Notaire assures me that it will be effective post Brexit. The link below gives the rationale.

The Regulation

Where the Regulation applies, when an individual dies, the default position is that the law applicable to the succession of that individual’s estate, regardless of where the assets in their estate are situated, and whether moveable or immoveable, will be the law of the country where the individual was habitually resident at the time of their death. The intention is that only one succession law will apply. The default position can be overridden by an election in an individual’s will for the law of the individual’s nationality to apply instead. Multi-nationals can choose any of their nationalities.

https://www.ashtonslegal.co.uk/owning-assets-in-the-eu-post-brexit-an-inheritance-law-perspective


(Bill Morgan) #53

Thanks Dan,
That’s reassuring, but I would like to see a case of it all, actually being applied, I have made a will, with a Notaire, stating I wish UK law to apply.