XP support Ends April 8th

I gather that windows XP support ends on April 8th. I don't like the upgrades, I want to keep my XP. Suggestions? What do I do?


Hi Brian

Thank you but I think I do all that, well it was done for me, save that I use, well was given for unknown reasons, Windows Live Mail.

All my emails are downloaded onto my PC, then deleted from the server -Orange- and it is trying to copy these emails from my PC to a memory stick that created the first problem, now solved but I suspect tiresome.

But as I said only a one off now and them maybe once per year, though once the Equitable Life saga is finally closed, I have been doing the work for 12 years now, then my emails are just the personal/domestic stuff and have no potential legal consequence and thus no requirement to back up.

Talk about "the law of unintended consequences!!" I started doing an analysis of the "scam" that was the WP Annuities of Equitable Life for my own satisfaction and ended up with Civil Servants in London and Brussels, the Treasury and more High Court appearances than most criminals and it is not over yet.



Quit right! I should have known better, but it was late at night and I just clicked OK to everything and got infected with the dreaded "Nation Zoom". A real pain to get rid of and I could have saved myself a lot of trouble by paying attention to what I was doing.

Hi Brian

Thank you.

I hadn't but I did and it is bloody useless adding nothing that is not contained with the info provided on Live Mail but critically doe snot explain what Diana added which is the key component of backing up emails.

But please, not your fault and thank you for trying to help

Peter S

Sounds like you have a rather boring task ahead, Peter, but once done all you have to do is make a list of where you put those blasted memory sticks.......

Hi Diana

Well that indeed worked, that is from Windows Mail Live to the Desk Top and then onto a Memory Stick. It is a bit clunky but it is only a one time job. I ran one of the action groups that obtained compensation for Equitable Life victims and ran the litigation group that sued the Society, so I have many 1,000's of emails that I need to keep for many years yet, but which are never accessed and probably never will be and just clutter up my PC so getting them back up and deleted will be a great help.




How interesting and thank you.

I know it can be done as when I upgraded to Windows 7, the techie who did it for me copied all my e-mails across from Vista, but I cannot contact him at present.

I used to run a software company and my Help Desk was always "replicating" the problem or not of course for clients, so just like old times.

I will try and keep you posted.


Peter S

I certainly can replicate the problem, I copy only one email as well, so it's not just you!

Try selecting the option within Windows Live Mail to "Work Offline" - it's under the Home tab.

Then opt to export to your desktop, creating a new folder there.

Let me know if this does work, if so you have to copy the Desktop folder to your memory stick.

I was able to copy my Inbox in this way but it excluded subfolders. I then tried to copy a selection of subfolders. Each test worked.

Irritating that it doesn't work straight to the memory stick. I tried this again with WLM offline, but still only one email copied.

So the trick seems to be to export to a folder on the Desktop, then copy to the stick.

Good luck.

Hi Diana

Yes, thank you but tried all of that already. You get a warning message if you do not have an empty folder set up and I try and copy a folder, which is from where I get as I say the apparently randomly selected email message.

If you can replicate the problem that would be much appreciated.


Peter S

A mixture of Dropbox (2GB free) and OneDrive (7GB free) works for the essential stuff.

The server is a Dell R200 (£40 from ebay) running Windows home server 2011 (only £45) in a home made expanded case providing room for an extra 5 drives.

7 drives in total. 1x 180GB ssd for the operating system and 6x 2TB green drives for a mixture of storage and backup.

Windows home server 2011 provides backup and disaster recovery for up to 10 (i think?) machines, PC or Mac and handles media sharing for everybody.

You can only export to an empty folder on your memory stick - check that first.

Then, you have to select the mail FOLDERS to be copied, not individual files.

If this doesn't work, I'll set up Windows Live Mail, and see if I can replicate the problem.

Well Diana, I am not afraid!

I back up all my user files to a memory stick each month.

But I cannot find a way to back up my emails.

When I "export" files from Windows Live Mail, it says it has done it but only ONE, apparently randomly selected, email gets transferred.

What am I doing wrong?

Help please.

Peter S

Wow, it's like chatting to my colleagues in the office! We are probably a vocal minority, though, and any ordinary humans reading these threads will be scared to ask how to back up Outlook contacts to a memory stick!

As Mike says, you can't over-protect important data. I was worried about Disaster Recovery in my last job, and when someone played down its importance I only had to say "well, my last employer's head office was destroyed by a bomb", and the topic was prioritised on the spot amid nervous glances at the machine room.

Carl, how much Cloud do you occupy, how much does it cost, and who runs it?

Almost impossible to be too careful.

A business can recover from destruction of its building, but not from losing its accounts data.

I'll get shot down for saying it but I use windows home server to back everything up incrementally (twice a day) and the same server throws the important stuff up into the cloud for off-site security.

It all depends upon remembering to do the backup - I have alarms set up to protect me against my aged memory!

I haven't used the cloud for backing up - uploading may take longer than writing to a disk, if you don't have a good broadband service. I use it for copying and holding files for use elsewhere, but for backing up I'd have to pay for extra space.

We do leave backup disks with a neighbour while we visit the UK for a few weeks, as well as taking a copy with us. Paranoia, as I said. Sometime I will have to describe how we prevent the pipes from freezing and generally keep an eye on the house in our absence, but then you would all know I'm crackers.

I, too, would be interested to hear how others have used the cloud.


Like you, I back-up to an external HDD, but I don't feel entirely comfortable about it.

They are easily dropped.

In a house fire, they will get destroyed with the rest.

I suppose it would be possible to store them somewhere else, but if the are not readily accessible backups are less likely to get done.

That just leaves the "Cloud". Can we trust it? Anyone got thoughts to share on this?

That article makes sense. I'd also advise caution when downloading documents like user manuals from online libraries - a plain old pdf file won't need to install a reader so if the library wants to download an exe file as well, abort and close the window, it's probably going to install malware, hijack your browser and make life very difficult for you. Perhaps the demise of XP is a good opportunity for us all to review our security measures and habits, for most of us it's long overdue!

No more than was justified if your aircraft took off just before midnight on 31st December 1999, and then only if the surgeon is using Windows XP robotics!

No problems here Diana. I'm one of the ones who just drive 'em but don't know or care how they work as long as they do! Newbie or not, don't be shy. Another perspective is always appreciated by this Win 7 using luddite.