Organ donation, opting out

Ditto… :wink:

All in favour but like a few here i imagine that mine are a little past by their consume by dates. Nevertheless for aspiring surgeons to have a go at dissection -why not? I only ask that a few ashes be scattered in a place I have identified......

Quite.

"... you might be desperate to stay alive!"

True - however, oddly enough, some of us are not that desperate!!!! :-)

As my dear old dad used to say BM, "don't go buying any long playing records..."

I have in fact, but only for the first two years here. Because I worked on a WHO/AIDS programme for children for a short time, I was very thoroughly screened in the early 1990s and showed them that. Since it was after the BSE outbreak and possibly because it is in French from a French Swiss specialist, it worked. Otherwise it is indeed nigh on impossible and probably valid for organ use as you say.

I am already 'off the menu', I have implants in my heart, a tiny cataract on one eye and suffer hypoxia, I use medication for the dicky ticker and another for the possible seizures, so none of my organs are considered acceptable but I am eligible for receiving. The black/white won't/can't give - won't receive does not work for a number of reasons but particularly ethical ones. I enquired at the time of my heart attack and even asked if there is a donation for research possibility which, at present, there is not.

Very tricky.

Yes, that's true. And someone with the knowledge that they have a pre-existing condition or something which would prohibit them from donating may take the possibly easier route of opting out rather than applying, possibly undergoing tests and then being refused which was the outcome they anticipated in the first place. For them, opting out doesn't make them mean and undeserving. It simply means they have an underlying condition that they know they will be refused for. I am not saying this is a daily occurrence at all. I am simply saying such a broad brush approach will not apply in all cases.

Peter did not opt-out, but was refused which is completly different

I am a recipient of donated organs , namely a pair of lungs in 1998 at Bordeaux’s Haut Leveque , still going strong after 17 years , I was on the waiting list for 13 days ! It is wonderful to donate your organs , it has given me a new life !

Not sure the French will take UK people's organs. They wont take our blood if we lived in the UK during the BSE scares in the 80's/90's.

Good heavens, what a palava! But yes, exactly. Sometimes it's not as black and white as "if you don't give, you don't receive". Some people, as you, may have tried their darnedest to be a donor but for medical reasons are forced to 'opt out'. It doesn't mean you're now unworthy to be a recipient yourself should the need arise. I wonder if the national database still works? Irrelevant really I suppose as I wouldn't be opting out anyway.

Hi Valerie, there are many reasons why a person may not be a donor. For example, my late wife and I applied to become bone marrow donors. We were both in our mid-forties at the time and my wife was accepted but I was refused because of my weight !

When I was 35 I applied to give blood in France. I had previously lived in France but returned to the UK for a few years before moving back. I had the usual blood tests to confirm my suitability but was refused due to the fact I had recently come from the UK. I was told I would have to wait fifteen years living in France before being able to give blood. Fifteen years later when I was fifty years of age I reapplied to give blood in France. The authorities again refused saying I was too old !!!

Just can't win !!

...as Pierre P said, hope the opt-out cannot receive either. When you are gone yo are gone, and just think of how many people could benefit from 'out bits' and it is not only the receiver that suffers, their nearest and dearest suffer too, just trying to be positive, and hoping...but the waiting for 'that' phone call, get you packed bag and come in, as a potential donor has been found!

We in our family are all organ donors, would not have it any other way, not necessarily because we might need the odd organ in years to come, but because we think it's the right thing to do!

Seeing the programmes of the frustration from clinicians on how to save lives, as there are simply not enough donors around, seeing young and old, being attached to machines, just waiting, getting into hospital getting ready, and then sometimes it just does not work, and the chances of staying alive each time this happens, is less and less, it is simply heart breaking for the receiver as well as for their nearest and dearest!

If one of my nearest and dearest died, however sad and heart breaking that would be, I would find comfort in, as would mine do, should it be me, that somewhere around a person or several walking around being healthy because of us having chosen to be organ donors, it is all about life and death!

Of course you have to do what you have to do, but just think that one day, you might be at the receiving end, and you might be desperate to stay alive! ;)

There could perhaps be medical / genetic reasons why they wouldn't make suitable donors.

I think it's a good idea. I registered on the national database years and years ago - I don't even know if that's still active - but that involved a conscious effort. I think a lot of people simply don't think about it or would voluntarily seek to become involved. I like the reversal in that if someone for whatever reason doesn't want to / can't be involved then it's them who need to take the necessary steps to opt out.

I hope those that opt-out can not receive either.

If only :-(

At least yours should be well preserved/pickled, what with all that alcohol !!

They are welcome to mine but I suspect it would be a bit like buying used tyres for a car...