A Beloved Car And Its Destiny

I have no specific advice to offer on leasing cars in France, but this comment made me wonder if leasing is necessarily the right option for you, young Volcano :slight_smile:

Car leases tend to have annual mileage limits, and the cost per mile for exceeding them can be high.

Yes you can get a lease with a higher mileage limit built in but then your monthly payments wil be greater.

(Obvs. high mileage affects the car’s future value).

Might be worth also looking at plain old hire purchase or a bank loan, especially on a “nearly new” vehicle that has done a good chunk of its depreciating already?

Just a thought.

As you are so rock and roll, you could be a bit naughty and get the adblue system bypassed. A friend with another Citroen engineer’d vehicle (badged Toyota) has had enough of it costing him a small fortune so had his bypassed. Ok he cannot go into a main dealer for fear of them reporting it but he is now getting a bit better fuel economy.

I asked about this, but only certain garages will do it, and you have to get it reversed for the CT. I thought I may be able to do it here in Portugal,(where they are more lawless!) but no dice. It’s a European Directive and there are massive fines for getting caught. I have another 2,000 kms to drive to get back to France. On verra je pense! Thanks for the info though. The Peugeot is running like a dream atm, but I am still getting shot of it.
Passez-vous un trĂšs bon weekend. :guitar:

Thanks Chris. I thought about getting an ex-demo vehicle, if they have such things in France. I do travel a lot of miles, so I will think about what you say. I leave Portugal in the Peugeot the end of March. Something usually goes wrong on the way up to France though. I will get rid of it asap on arrival. Merci pour votre compréhension. Volcanic :volcano::volcano::guitar::guitar:

Had a pleasant hour or so with my neighbours last evening while Mario completed all the paperwork for the transfer of my Berlingo. I am so glad I made that one of only 2 conditions of sale because it took him all that time.

All I have to do is send the stamped envelope they gave me containing the Cessation to the Prefecture when I send the same document to my insurers to cancel and my passport to England today.

But I was somewhat surprised to learn that he has to take it for a new CT now even though there is the best part of 17 months left on the current one. Is he right?

Finally, he told me that if I ever need to use the car myself, if my one car now is in for service etc., then I am welcome to do so. Then with hugs and kisses all round when they noted my slight sadness at the parting after 16 years of ownership of a faithful friend, I came home just in time to feed my other faithful friend but, in my distraction prepared his usual sardines instead of the twice weekly treat now of cod. That will be tomorrow, he won’t lose out. :joy:

Yes, it needs at least 18 months to get it re-registered

PrĂ©fectures don’t have anything to do with car registration these days, it needs to go to ANTS.

That’s what I said to him but he had all the details to hand and addressed it to the Prefecture.

As regards the CT, it should pass ok as it has hardly been moved since done last August. New tyres and a couple of minor rectifications to windscreen washers and a warning light of some kind, all fixed.

Doesn’t alter the Certificate of Cession though, I’ll post that to the insurance tomorrow to get that cancelled, but it wasn’t expensive as I only had it on the barest minimum legal requirement.

I’ve sold a couple of cars in the last three years and to do so they needed a CT less than six months old. One was annoying because the original CT was only seven months old, The other was bought and sold within the six months. It was cheaper to buy and sell than to rent for the five months my daughter spent in Europe on a trip.

I’m not completely out of pocket by giving away the Berlingo, today I was informed by AXA that I will receive €69 which is the balance of the cancelled insurance. Would have been more but it was only 3rd party. :joy:

Ah there you go, “spend more and save more”, as they say. :smiley:

Glad you got something back at least.

I recently had my partner added to my car insurance, a feat which would have taken an insurance company numpty approximately 48 seconds worth of typing, and they charged me ÂŁ30.

Its not a requirement to send your cessation copy to Ants, it is simply your proof that you no longer own it.
When the new owner registers the car in their name you are automatically removed from it.
The cessation will be dated and timed so from that moment you are free from responsibility.
Yes, your insurance company will need to see a copy to cancel the insurance but nothing more to do.
As for the CT, if you sell to a private individual then yes, a CT is required less than 6 months old but not the case if selling to a dealer.

Just made a change to my insurance this week, NFU mutual do not charge for changes to a policy. Add to that paying monthly is free of any interest charges and they add breakdown cover as well.

That’s what I thought John, and told Mario that too. The car has 17 months left on it but he insists he has to take it for another one. Up to him and perhaps they will put him straight when he tries to book it.

As I said above I sent the cessation to both the Prefecture and the insurance agent, which is why I am getting the refund so quickly.

My maths tells me that the CT is 7 months old so does need a new one!

Let’s just clarify the situation..

When selling a car, the Controle Technique should have been “done” less than 6 months prior to the date of sale..

Thus if selling in February 2026, the CT should have been “done” around October 2025.

I once bought a car which had been “done” almost 6 months less a couple of days. Sadly, it was the weekend and BHoliday, so when I rushed to the Prefecture the lady turned me away
 I was “too late” and I had to pay for a fresh CT before I could register the little beauty.

Looks like I got it the wrong way round then, but I find it really stupid that a CT as recent as last August is not worth anything. Thankfully, not my problem, and I have enough of those already with French officialdom. :roll_eyes:

Undoubtedly in the t&c. My insurer permits online changes foc and adding my daughter to my policy caused a reduction. Previously, removing my wife created an increase. All to do with risk assessment algorithms. Just how removing my wife, who never drove the car, from the policy increased the risk is bizarre.

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Interesting, maybe I should add my OH?

to my policy or yours?