See my post above. The garagiste in question had his company and the sign outside read Garage Bastard, think I posted that on here years back
I have always liked the way that Adblue works. The simplicity of how it changes a noxious gas into two harmless products seems like such a good news product in the fight to make car exhausts cleaner and less harmful.
I was shocked by the concept of Adblue delete which I had never heard about before reading the post on here.
I decided to find out more so spent some time with Google. Yes it exists. Yes there are a lot of companies out there competing to take your money to remove the system from your car. Some of them are honest others are at best being less than honest with the truth and nearly every one of them makes it clear that it will make your car illegal in all civilised countries, may well make your car fail roadworthyness tests and even result in you receiving a hefty fine. The thing is their sales pitch has already made the product seem so attractive they know that most of their customers won’t be interested in little things like health and the law.
Mind you they have their backs covered… A lot of them repeat those wonderful advantages; you will save money, you won’t be stuck in the middle of nowhere, you car won’t go into limp mode and it won’t be off the road and in the garage being mended. How brilliant! Their backs are covered by a short phrase added to each and every advantage, for off-road use. They must be amazed by the number of people who arrive with expensive Mercedes, BMWs, Audis, Toyotas and so on who claim that they only use their luxury vehicles off-road. Snake oil salesmen who sell to those not interested acting responsibly. What a World!
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It could easily be stopped. Currently in France, it is not illegal to program an ECU for adblue delete. So of course the programmers, to make 250€ for 10 minutes work, will sell the service.
Make it illegal to program the ECU would cull most of it immediately.
I would be surprised if many people who own decent vehicles use this, a desire to keep the car standard (easier to sell) being a factor. This is something for the aging crap boxes from Peugeot and Citroen etc. Older diesels won’t have it, so not an issue there.
It’s not a big deal though - £10 worth (10 litres) does my car more than 5000miles/8000km.
That’s one of the things I found odd. A lot of the adverts are implying that Adblue will add a significant amount to your cost per mile. The cars I listed are mentioned in their adverts. Personally I couldn’t imagine anybody making their car all but worthless and impossible to sell just to stop using a useful product. The continuous off-road comments were hilarious.
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Adblu in France is not expensive. My 3.0 litre VW Amarok does close to 4,000 miles on 5 litres of Adblu. However, having chosen to retain Adblu the cost of replacing a faulty NOX sensor on the Amarok (2017 model) has just cost me 1,275 euros. I also considered deleting Adblu, due to the cost of the NOX sensor, and was told by my favourite mechanic at the VW dealer that it was possible but would be ‘illegal’, could possibly damage the catalyser and would be detected at CT when NOX was included in the CT in the future. I know Adblu can be deleted but don’t know if it can be re-installed if required.
Do a Google search, all the options are easy to find.
The Adblue itself isn’t expensive, but this or the cost of replacing a poorly engineered PSA Adblue tank/pump is what makes it unattractive.
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Sounds like €275 for the sensor and €1000 for the garagiste
Sensor was 900 euros. I checked at different VW dealers.
Wow that was unlucky, most are far less.