Aperitifs culture change?

I decided to look through the list of recipes helpfully linked by @DrMarkH above.

I didn’t vet the recipes 'cos I like making my own menus - just posted the link to give @blade46 an idea of the state of play. Incidentally, I don’t think Brits should be blamed - I still remember our first apéro chez nous eleven years ago when we thought our neighbours would leave before dinner, but instead they stayed till midnight and nearly drank us dry. Now, if inviting them, I assume it’s dinatoire even if the term hasn’t yet reached rural Aveyron

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It was no criticism, so much as really very very funny to find peanut butter toast among the saumon fumee and exotic quiches.

FWIW I’m keeping the link for ideas to adapt in the future.

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Believe me when you hear some of them waxing lyrically about their newest piece of kitchen equipment that costs as much as we spend on a couple of weeks shopping, it’s food snobbery :yum:

It used to be very unusual to see a fat schoolchild in France but now sadly there are more. Guessing access to fast food, McDonald’s etc which never used to be the case, is the reason.

From what I’ve been reading (and hearing), it’s not necessarily bad diet.

The trend seems to be gazing at one’s smartphone etc … which doesn’t burn many calories… :wink:

Seems the ideal is to “switch off” regularly for a break and do something physically demanding long walks, sports, anything…

Youngsters haven’t perhaps got themselves into that sort of a routine and their world is in their mobile phone (whatever).

Yes it is! Any article that tells you it isn’t and puts the blame elsewhere is PR activity on the part of today’s disgusting, immoral food industry. Food companies are no better than tobacco companies.

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In reply to Karen’s post, I replied “not necessarily bad diet”…
and I stand by that… no way can we tar everyone with the same brush.

Yes, I do believe that there is some “bad” fast-food and we certainly don’t choose to eat it… but a lot of folk do and yet not everyone gets obese… :wink:
I’d like to see the bad FF get thrown out the window… but that’s just me :wink: :wink:

I guess moderation in all things, including inactivity :wink: … is the best way forward…
Eat a bit… go and exercise a bit… :+1:

The fat ones don’t wander around with a phone stuck out in front of them - instead they have bags of crisps and other crap .

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And you know this for sure how, that’s a sweeping and tarring statement if I ever heard one.

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The trend was noticed quite a bit before mobiles became such a thing

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Strikes me we’re getting some crossed-wires or (maybe) just some strange opinions… which we are all entitled to have of course…

I’m stepping back… well away from fastfood, obesity and (of course) mobile phones etc… :wink:
I’m heading for a little outdoor exercise… walkies… :wink: :wink:

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Simple - direct phenomenological observation over several years :wink:

So do you tar eveyone who is overweight as lazy and crap food eaters :roll_eyes:
Making general sweeping statements like that is part of what is wrong with society today, I take it your quite slim :wink:
BTW don’t take this personally, it’s just a bug bearer of mine when people are pigeon holed with generalized statements like that.

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I suggest you read more carefully. I didn’t use the word ‘everyone’ as the discussion had been about young people: neither did I mention laziness’.

Perhaps you’re the one who’s inadvertently generalising by attributing to me words that I didn’t use.

And where do you stand on the subject?

Are you denying that in recent decades there’s been a massive uprise in obesity in the US, then the UK and now France, and that this is usually attributed to a combination of highly processed junk food and lack of exercise (not the same as laziness)?

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So yes you were generalising :wink:

Why not try moving the debate along a bit by responding to my questions rather than being over-literal about a casual observation.

Ormaybe lead the thread back to the apéro - by coincidence we’re off to one this evening - bonne soirée!

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Social inequality as well - it is very noticeable at my double lycée where there’s a vocational and an academic side, there are a lot more overweight teenagers on the vocational side.
My daughter in London who is a perfectly normal sized French person is still amazed by how many people there are fat.

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That is a very interesting observation. Gave me pause for thought . . . .

One only has to peer into people’s caddies in supermarkets to get an idea of the reason. Vast amounts of cheap highly processed food stuffed with fats, salt and sugar…

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I’m not at all sure we can assume that folk are going to overload on the bad stuff, just because they have some in their supermarket trolley…

I had 6 packets of LU Petit Ecolier Noir biscuits in my trolley today… that’s our preferred brand… and will last a few weeks or more as we don’t pig-out, but buy 'em when we see 'em on sale. The various “homebrand” ones are nice but these are best… :wink:

Also, McVities Digestives… 3 packets in the trolley… dated until June 2024… they’ll come in useful for my special chocolate refridgerator cake at Christmas and Easter.
I stock up with McV if I can find 'em…
I’ve made many, many lovely cakes with alternatives but just lacking that certain something… :wink:

Thankfully, my purchases of calamaris rings in breadcrumbs were hidden in the freezer bag… :wink:
but I was proudly showing my Quaker Muesli which was classed A for nutrition etc… hurrah… did I get something right ?? :wink:

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