I sympathise ever so slightly with the author, but only in the sense that it is a chore getting these forms filled out by recalcitrant bankers/doctors/priests or whoever. I have requests from the German fisc, the Irish fisc and the UK fisc for these life certificates … but never at the same time. My bank is very reluctant to sign or stamp anything which is not in French but they are the only people that I see regularly. Who makes a doctor’s appointment just to get a wretched form stamped? As for the Mairie … there are over 500,000 other punters queueing up at its guichets for much more important matters!
Do you have a local notaire? I’ve had mine signed by a couple of them here and they don’t charge. One doesn’t speak English but accepts our explanation of what the document is.
I’m surprised the OP hasn’t replied to any of the comments ![]()
I’m not. ![]()
Any notaire will do it for you, for free. It works for the UK and Ireland, don’t know about Germany.
I hasn’t noticed your reply @Jennifer11
I didn’t say it was unreasonable. I said it was contary to the Withdrawal Agreement.
You accpceptance of what your lord and masters demaand is dissapointing.
Some of us in France are dependant on the Withdrawal Agreement for our residence, pension payments, and rights to some cash benefits.
Maybe you don’t qualify.
See my reply to Kirsteastsevenson.
‘If you dont ask, you dont get’
I have been advised if this by an EU citizens advice centre . Why do you think you still get state pension increases ahd that the UK government had to hurridly change the qualifications for WFP when it was cancelled last year.
Please do your oen research.
See my reply to Kirsteastsevenson.
‘If you dont ask, you dont get’
I’d suggest that the fundamental point here is that they are not discriminating on cash benefits as you are still paid your pension so long as you are alive. All that’s different is how the DWP assures itself that you are, in fact, still alive. As others have mentioned, there are many ways that the DWP can confirm the status of UK residents but these methods are not available to confirm that pensioners abroad are in fact living and breathing so they simply ask you to get a form signed.
As a taxpayer, I’m glad that they do these checks and think that you’re on a hiding to nothing.
Ignoring the casual insults sent by the uniniformed or trolls i have tried to warn other beheficiaries of the lack of training in the UK in the implications of the Withdrawal Agreement. I am concerened as although the Life Certificate is a small matter which i have agreed to if there is agreement that the wording is amended to exclude the threat of non-payment. You know politicians. Give them an inch and they will take a mile.
I have been advised of the sutuation by an EU Citizens advice centre of my rights .
I suggest to sceptics that they remember the restoring of the right to vote in the UK after a long battle.
Presumably they have given you a specific reference that you can share? I do like a good reference when someone makes claims based on law.
As is my wont, I’ve gone and done a bit of reading and there is a fundamental flaw in your argument. Article 12 is quite clear that the non-discrimination clause refers to discrimination by the host state against other nationalities exercising their right of freedom of movement. Your native state can do what they like within the bounds of their domestic law.
Mute ![]()
What are these rights? I thought that being a guest of M. Macron, I had no rights other than shut up, buckle down and pay my taxes. And speeding fines.
I just had to fill out the DWP form, and I had my doctor sign and stamp it. She was amused. Spoke to a friend who also has to fill out the form, and he gets his bank to sign for him.
I only started drawing my UK pension last year - 11 years too late. Didn’t even know I was entitled to one. A very pleasant surprise.
I’m going to have to fill out something for my American Social Security payments next year and hope that it arrives in the US (and that the US actually is still a going concern).
In the UK, the Registrar of Births and Deaths automatically informs the DWP when a death is registered., so home or abroad the DWP get this information, just in different means.
I don’t think France currently informs UK when a Brit dies in France.
It’s down to the family/executor to notify any people/pension suppliers/ etc etc who need to be informed.
(and UK never informed France when my French grandmother died… )
They don’t. That’s why we receive the “I’m still alive” form .
Yes and you can claim bereavement payment too and get your pension to include any the deceased spouse may have been entitled to.