At least you can educate them and put them on the correct path when you see them. Or maybe they will educate you 
OH says I’m still in training, personally I think there’s no hope for me.
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Why? Your assumption is that it’s impossible for humanity to live sustainably - but this is not true. People have lived perfectly environmentally sustainably in many places at many times - for millennia.
Sorry Sue, but yours seems a really depressing and dangerous perspective to me - depressing because it sees nothing worth saving in humanity or civilisation - and dangerous because if we are nothing more than destructive as a species, why do anything to save us - why bother taking any action on the environment?
Read the book JohnBoy - Slowdown by Danny Dorling (it’s actually described in more detail earlier in the thread - you are unlikely, believe me, to ever read a more closely argued and evidenced analysis).
Shocking:
A scientist arrested for taking part in an Extinction Rebellion action at the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) is on hunger and thirst strike after being held by police for more than 40 hours.
Emma Smart, 44, a marine biologist who has previously taken action with Insulate Britain, has had nothing to eat or drink since Thursday morning…
Smart said: “How come I’m the one being persecuted here for committing criminal damage with BEIS is still issuing new fossil fuel licences which will cause damage to the environment and future generations?”
On Friday, Smith was with scientists and medics at an XR protest outside Charing Cross police station. Jeff Waage, a professor of international development at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, held a placard outside the police station doors saying: “Science says new oil and gas = death.”
He said: “The arrests of scientists, keeping them from speaking out, is wrong and it’s preventing us from actually reaching the public with important scientific messages that are coming out of international research.”
How much gas does France use to generate electricity? UK is around 40% on an average day when not so much wind. I know France relies on nuclear a bit more than UK.
I read recently that France only generates about 6% of its electricity from all fossil fuels put together.
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The Guardian: Tory MP Steve Baker shares paper denying climate crisis.
Where did you read it? Obviously the source matters.
Seems about right for tonight.
20% wind
20% nuclear
Only wind doesnt produce 300-400 years of radio active waste.
I’ll try to find the reference and post it.
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The link I posted seems to agree 6% gas
Maybe, at times, but things vary. The live (not quite) picture is here…
This (currently) puts the figure at just under 3%. - fossil fuels altogether at less than 4%.
However, the capacity is much higher.
Oops! Sorry I posted the UK link.
Here is the French one.
Uk is doing quite well on renewables today.
France doing well with solar 20%, a bit of wind not so great 10/, and hydro is good to 10%. The rest mainly nuclear.
Brittany - and probably most of western France - currently sitting under a huge high - fabulous April weather, sunny, mid-20s, no wind - turbines all still…
10% being generated by wind suggests many of the others are stopped be that because of a lack of wind or switched off? Nuclear is running at its minimum so have to switch something off or would be over generating electricity.
Not enough EV’ thats the problem.
Lucky you are not in the UK where the scum government give out 5k to the high rollers for heat pumps for a short while whilst not giving ordinary folk grants for insulation.
Architect’s Journal: Government says it won’t ‘impose’ better insulation on homes.
Whereas Frances scum government in waiting also want to cut back on renewables.
Reuters.com: Le Pen’s renewables ban plan is an ‘aberration’, Macron says.
Le Pen's renewables ban plan is an 'aberration', Macron says | Reuters
Read an article a while ago someone complaining about the heat pump system for which he had received IIRC a70000 pound grant.
That must be some system or they are way too stupid to be out without their carer.
I think they had had a house built. It just seemed mad that they had received such a large amount. I will try to find the article. ISTR there was a large pump room and they were complaining the house wasn’t warm enough. It is in thisismoney.co.uk. Search for useless heatpump after 70000 pound grant.