Covert speed monitoring cars

Driving skills, be they good or bad… come to light when the vehicle is being driven.

Of course, it might well be that the person driving a Dutch registered vehicle, isn’t actually Dutch… but without stopping said vehicle and talking to the Driver… we’ll never know :wink:

We live in a major tourist area, but don’t see many Belgian cars down here., consequently they’re noticeable when driven with impunity. They thrash down to the Med.

Then look back at the statistics that defines it.

“They are defined by training, ability and attitude.” not by nationality. Is there are genetic variation that makes some nationalities better than others?

But different nations train their drivers to different sets of rules and habits, hence the observed differences.

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Think you’re maybe confusing genetics and nationality.

Local variations in driving tests, speed limits and habits (conventions) are nothing to do with the former.

I used to drive a Belgium car, but I am of both German and French nationality. I have driven many different cars, my abilities govern my skill not my nationality.

Are the British the best drivers, or is it the person who is better?

Correct. Hence the reference to training.

Who defines who are the best drivers?

Wow… in the nicest way… you are rather a mixed bag aren’t you
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As I’ve suggested, when witnessing bad driving, nationality of said driver is most likely to be assumed, according to the Registration… thus the results cannot be absolutely correct, but possibly are enough to give a rough idea if it is a foreign registration … :wink:

In France, one cannot assume that every bad driver of a French registered car… is actually French… :roll_eyes:

It is more complicated as I am Alsatian.

You compare, I think, against British standards and conventions not a defined international standard.

It all makes for good fun. :wink:

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I’ve no idea, but if you compare road death statistics, despite similar population size, there’s a big difference between the UK and France.

https://www.google.com/search?q=road+deaths+UK+France+comparison&oq=road+deaths+UK+France+comparison&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigAdIBCTE1MTA0ajBqN6gCCLACAfEFc_088jWvUhw&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

In the year ending June 2023, there were 1,633 UK vehicle accident deaths (down 9% on the previous year), compared to 3,170 in France (down 4%) . New data from French road safety agency la Sécurité routière reports 254 deaths in March 2024. This compares to a monthly average of 135 in the UK (2023 figures).’

Worth adding that the speed limit on UK non-urban, single carriage way roads is usually 60mph (96.5kph) so higher than the 80 or 90kph limits on the equivalent French roads

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Though rarely reached as the 40mph crowd hold everyone up.

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Sadly, this is becoming increasingly true. I’ve also noticed a growing number of people who’ve been watching too many American films and think it’s OK to overtake in any lane in the UK.

TBH I’m not really sure why French accident stats are much worse that British ones, other than motorway/autoroute driving where people tend to be MUCH closer together when driving at speed than is normal in the UK.

It’s eight years since we left but I assume that’s still not the case in Cumbria…

I think here there’s more stupid overtaking here and it has several aspects. Many drivers dither indecisively before overtaking, so they have less space/time to do it safely… Conversely many others do the absolute opposite, overtaking when it’s not a good idea. And then there’s others who leisurely overtake in top gear without changing down.

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I have tried doing 40 through the Wrynose Pass but its tricky. :open_mouth:

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I’m not sure speeding is seen the same way in France, where the object seems to be to catch and punish anyone who breaks the speed limit rather than encouraging people to drive safely.
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I’m sure there are speed traps set up to milk motorists on both sides of the channel. The difference here is that the locals set them on fire. That’s why they are armoured now.