Yes, and the upgraded ID3 with improved quality interior and infotainment that works is a good option too. I don’t like the ID4 otherwise I would have bought one to replace our Tiguan.
Under 25 000 Euros and available ‘end of’ 2025 apparently. So 2026 if we’re lucky.
Auto-moto.com commented that had been the initially mooted price for an ID3, apparently now listed at 46 000
Fiat is also pointing an electric Panda at the so-called low cost end in 2025. I love the Panda.
The Panda and the 500 are really the same car and there’s already an electric 500 so an electric Panda shouldn’t be too far behind.
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We had a petrol 500 on hire a couple of weeks back - not a bad little car to drive, though it has a surprisingly large turning circle.
That’s FWD for you. We’ve a 306 that has a dreadful turning circle. We’ve rented a 500 too, we toured Cornwall in it and had great fun. We’ve also driven the Panda and I think it’s a bit more practical. It was a light, light, light hybrid. It uses the starter motor as an electric motor (which of course it is 
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A Fiat 500 is like a car only smaller 
, the exact opposite of the original, a reverse TARDIS and don’t get me started on the BMW Mini’s.
The panda is by far the better car, I really like them and have had a few 
The turning circle was notably wider than my Skoda Karoq, previous mini countryman, Peugeot 307 SW and 406SW, VW beetle or practically everything I’ve driven for the last 30 years. Maybe it had limited lock because it was the Abarth version?
Doubt it, the drive shafts and CV joints are probably the same.
Yes I like the 500 too. Absolutely useless boot though - can’t even get a Brompton in it’s so tiny.
The best car I ever had as a hire car was a Fiat 500 Abarth. Just fabulous.
What did you especially like about it? I quite enjoyed the one we had, especially the Abarth button, set up by someone with a sense of humour, but after the wife’s Mini Cooper SD I’d expected a bit more ‘pocket rocket’. Very comfy and practical (except for passengers and big cases).
I took it from Milan Malpensa up to Bellagio, very curvy mountain road going uphill above a lake drop on one side and rock on the other with bits of adverse camber and other horrors. Have driven that route in various cars seasons and weather in quite a few years.
The thing stuck to the road like glue no matter what. No sideslip nothing even when I got naughty and put on a bit of speed. My brother said the wheel at each corner adjusts separately it’s totally instantaneous or faster :-). The gearbox was like silk. I have never driven a car with a better one.
Unfortunately as I was a known trusted renter that always brought the cars back in good nick, Hertz gave it to me with about 127 miles on it, it was very annoying. It was an absolute cracker of a car and as I’d had the normal ones repeatedly it was a great shock the difference the Abarth made.
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This is a real 500! Owned this from 1972 to 1974. Great fun to drive. To start it the key was in the centre of the dashboard and then there were 2 levers between the front seats (yes it was a 4 seater) one lever was the choke and the other the starter. I I eventually removed the heating system attached to the engine and it went much faster. Opening the sunroof always reminds me of opening a tin of sardines. The other beauty in red is my wife of 47 years.
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There’s a bit more to it than independent suspension!
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The original and the best (dare one say). Currently for sale in Milan for €43,500.
She’s an SS.
Quite rare.
The man himself… fiddling with a supercharger.
You didn’t really drill holes in the front panel for the spots 
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The one we had was about 25000k old and rattly. In some ways it was like the mini (that we still have) including rattles, but softer and less go-kart like.
Many years ago I had a 500 Estate and there is one that run’s around Le Man’s , I saw it parked up one day so I left a note on it to see if they were selling it, but got a polite text saying no but they would keep me in mind if they ever did, I also really loved the 600 multipla as well
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One of my Scottish aunts had an orange Topolino in the early 70s when she lived in Rome, so cool.
My mother’s first car in I think 1960 (when she turned 18) was one of these, very suitable for the Côte d’Azur.
My great grandmother in Vietnam had one of these, or very similar, in the mid1920s
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A Chrysler 6 or 75 ?