The cables on your land idea I think you should be wary of. Does anyone know about the rules around this?
I was really joking and it is not yet our land until they sort out the Cadastral
This map gives the municipalities with fibre from at least one operator. The number of different operators can vary, even for adjacent communes!
Zoom in and click on your commune and it will show the operators available.
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That’s really helpful, thanks.
Just checked that out for the home address - not surprisingly, we have no fibre coverage whatsoever…there is a corridor of fibre-desert stretching across the land between the two nearest villages, and our village is in the middle of that corridor !
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As it says in the accompanying text, it is a map of Fibre to the Home (FTTH) (and I assume Fibre to the Building (FTTB)). It does not include Fibre to the Curb (FTTC) where the fibre cable terminates in a street cabinet and continues to the home with the standard copper telephone wire.
They put FTTC into the village here a couple of years ago as a prelude to FTTH expected in 2022/3. There was little actual communication on the implementation. It seems some in the village have not upgraded their internet connection to take advantage of the additional speed available by switching from ADSL to VDSL.
I am about 750m from the cabinet. My speed went from the 2Mb/s I’d had since 2004 to 18Mb/s when I asked my original operator to upgrade. But even that must have been capped as when I checked other operators I found by switching I could get 39Mb/s for about 20€/month.
This is a map of every individual address internet connection in France. Possibly worth checking with addresses around you.
There is also the page to check the best offers for your address
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Yes there’s fibre in the town we come under. But no way (ever, I think) will they put fibre here. We are rural but not remote rural.
It’s annoying as the mobile signal seems to be progressively disappearing.
For me connection to the internet is very close to as essential as water and electricity. IMV there should be a public service obligation of a minimum connection being available one way or the other. Having it now done by profit-making enterprises without resistantly-worded public service requirements quite naturally means they will minimise and cherry-pick.
Will be seeing the old Maire this afternoon and will see if he knows the rollout plan for the commune.
We have near neighbours with Orange DSL which peaks at 500kbps on a good day. Makes my WIMAX solution’s 12mbps look almost acceptable for €40/month.
There is a plan for very high speed internet for all
Garantir du très haut débit pour tous en 2022 | Agence du numérique
for some it may be improved mobile 4G/5G or satellite
Snap !. We are in exactly the same situation here. We are surrounded on 3 sides by small communes with Fibre to the home within 3Km. On the other side, it’s about 6Km. We are the only desert commune surrounded by an oasis of fibre.
Never mind, we have been promised fibre by next August so not long to go now.
Same here. When I moved into our house 2.5 years ago, we were connected to VDSL2 and I get 75-80mbps as we are less than 150m from the exchange. The previous owners only got about 5mbps and so must have been on ADSL. Our neighbours are still on ADSL and get about 5mbps. I advised them to contact their provider (Orange) to switch to VDSL2. I think Orange wanted them to switch to a different, more expensive package before they would do this and so they didn’t. There is an online map somewhere of properties and the speeds they get. Can’t find it now, but the last time I looked about 8 months ago only about 5% of the village was on VDSL2.
The link to the map of individual property speeds was in my earlier post
Here it is again
Unfortunately, we are still only on ADSL2 and although the announced range of between 8 and 30 Mbps sounds useful, the reality is that we are consistently below 8 Mbps as we are at the end of the line, 2km from local DSLAM, with a significant signal attenuation. Which kind of sucks, really. I certainly can’t see the historic operator Orange wanting to improve that any time soon, as it would mean changing the diameter of the copper wires all the way to our house. Other hamlets would feel equally left out if they didn’t have their infrastructure upgraded.
We get mostly better speeds from a RED/SFR 4G router, so long term, that may be the way we wish to go, especially since the current subscription offer is “sans engagement”. My main concern with 4G (and 5G when it finally gets rolled out) is that of number of subscribers, the more there are, the less you get, so to speak, and that of signal drop, which occurs quite frequently where we are - one minute you’re cruising at near max theoretical bandwidth, and the next, you’re riding a single gear pushbike uphill with the wind against you…
Ah! OK. I used Ariase when I bought the house to check what was available. I was shocked then to see that although VDSL2 was available at the exchange, only the Mairie was actually connected. Even now, 2.5 years later, there are only 4 other properties connected to VDSL2 including myself. The rest are on ADSL with Ariase reporting 3-8 or less than 3 mbps. It’s as though nobody tells people what’s available. Such a waste of an upgrade of the exchange.
We should be getting FTTH next year, and it wouldn’t suprise me if nobody takes advantage of that, as its never to my knowledge been mentioned by the Mairie and there’s nothing on thier website, which on pretty much every other topic is excelent.
From what I can see VDSL is only useful within 1.5km of the exchange the signal then drops off rapidly after that. So no use to me as I am outside the village by about 3km. Looks as though we will have to wait for fibre. Our ADSL is up and down from a normal 8 Mb/s down to less than 1Mb/s when it was low for a week we complained to Orange who told us it was due to new servers being installed for the fibre and the gave us 200Gb of data on out mobile for two months.
I know of a few area’s where the standard of fiber cable installation has been poor, maybe because of the distances involved in France, that folks have binned fiber and went with 4/5g because the speeds were still very poor.
Yes. This would be the case here.
I really can’t see commercially how it can make sense to bring cable to anywhere there isn’t a cluster of houses or businesses of a certain number. The distance from the exchange matters a lot.
But if we agree that this makes sense, then mobile signals of sufficient strength and bandwidth ( as subscribers as they are added must share the available bandwidth) must be legally mandated to be provided and maintained. Sending mobile signals through the air to rural locations must surely be less costly than digging holes and running cable? One or the other must be provided at a minimum.
As I indicated earlier, it has never been the plan for fibre to every business and home. It has always been recognised there were going to be places where it would not be feasible. There are plenty of documents on the the implementation; this is one of the most recent e.g. Le Plan France Très Haut Débit Le Plan France très haut débit | Gouvernement.fr
For the agreed major conurbations the traditional operators will deploy fibre.
For the other areas the local authorities deploy public high speed networks, some of which will be fibre. For places where fibre is not realistic there are proposals for other options including
- Boucle locale radio (Wireless local loop) (THD) Les technologies radio dans la boucle locale (THD Radio, BLR, Wimax) | Arcep
- optimising 4G generally and reception in buildings, extension of the 4G mobile network by providing an extension of the mobile network with dedicated receivers which do not require a mobile phone subscription
- by satellite
many more links to information Aménagement numérique des territoires | Ministère de la Cohésion des territoires et des Relations avec les collectivités territoriales
It is possible you might find out more of the actions/plans by the local authorities for your area by searching for tres haut debit department-name
I have searched Elsie. And I just searched under the name of the town we come under.
There is lots of information put out by the department and town about having haut debit. When you look closer, all the areas surrounding the town have nothing. There is a pie chart with the % of homes having each speed. It looks great for 65% of the inhabitants. Or, anyone in a public building. Which of course means the town itself. There’s a suspicious “Unknown speed” (hah! ) for 20%. We are as far as the town is from the new motorway, but now cut off on the other side of the motorway.
Progressively in the past 3 years, the mobile signal from everyone except Orange has disappeared. Particularly over the 4-5 months since July. Having had contracts with 4 different mobile providers since July, as the signal progressively disappeared, I am on my last option which is Orange only, has reached 4 or 5 bars previously, now 2 bars and dropping out a lot.
The ADSL speed makes a box not even worth thinking about. But there is no national or departmental law obliging at least one decent signal to be kept available. For 15-20 years till the last 3 or so there was a decent signal available and most of the time by more than one operator.
Being 2km from a major motorway we’re not that remote we’re just in a “hole” with the signal being taken away and there’s no protection for us.
I literally cannot function personally or professionally without a decent mobile connection and dealing with the French government and public services really requires the internet now. Great for people in towns but even those of us who are not that remote and have had a signal are not being protected.