I would say they have been sold to, sales people can brainwash the unwary.
Right, Jøtul is a brand to look out for.
I think we’ll have a wood burning stove rather than pellets, and the first Jøtul on that page might look okay in the space we have (I might tinker around with pictures to insert one in the other, but I suspect that too will be beyond my ability) but that’s really in order to have a fire with logs to look at.
Two final questions before we https://youtu.be/s3O1Xro7oAI
- Are there any other brands to look out for and
- Is the installation of the flue (the sort with independent ventilation) independent of the stove, ie you can have different types of flue with any given stove?
PS that looks dodgy, inserting a link like dearly departed colleagues do: it’s just a video of the great Johnny (you’ll guess which song).
Our UK log burner is a Stovax (Stockton 5) and it’s been very effective - I’d happily have another.
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We’ve got 2 Supra poeles à bois which burn well, kick out the claimed heat and are easy to clean.
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Worth a look on the DEFRA site as they show efficiency and other useful facts, too many stoves in France wear the flame verte stickers but have not changed design in 100 years.
We have both, so I’ve been able to make several direct comparisons.
The pellet stove is a lot less work, in winter ours gets topped up once a day and is programmable with an app. Also my wife can switch it on and off whereas she can’t cope with the log burner.
A further advantage for us is that pellets are easier to store, are easily sourced and their quality is consistent, whereas we’ve used four different log suppliers in the last eight years and the quality of the wood has varied, also one needs much more storage space.
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No comment on the amount of fuel used between the two?
Several reasons why it’s difficult to make an accurate assessment:-
The pellet stove is used for several more weeks per annum than the log burner and for more hours per day.
It’s easy to calculate how many sacks of pellets have been used, whereas, some logs will remain from the previous winter, also they’re a standard(ish) length but varying shapes and cross-sections, so figuring out how many stère one’s used over a winter is a bit of a guess.
Forgot to include in the previous post that one can easily turn a pellet stove off for say, the middle hours of the day, and there’s also much, much less mess
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The extra use of the pellet stove pretty well makes the argument then.
Yes and no, depends what ‘amount’ refers to - the volume of the pellets used is less, the amount of time it’s used is more and the amount of money spent is well…? Happily pellets are now half the price of couple of years ago
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I am still using them for cat litter, hoping the price doesnt rise again for this time of year. The combustion is much more thorough with pellets so in theory kg 4 kg should be better and hopefully = or better on cost but as you have said shear ease makes it better for your wife as well.
I visited some friends in Haute-Vienne in June and they raved about their automated pellet burner.
So I think a PB stove will be on my shopping list when I move (or else maybe I can find a house that already has one!)
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That Stufa pellet stove mentioned earlier looks good except its got a big bum! Pellet storage and feed system is at the rear so a very deep fireplace required. Shame as I may have gone for one.
One thing to be aware of is that pellet stoves seem to have a minimum output while running, which can be too much when you just need a little bit of heat. So ours has a 3-12kW output, but when the weather is cool but mild 3kW is just too much. We had 12kw max output to heat a large kitchen and allow heat to go upstairs too, but in retrospect we might have managed with a bit less.
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Very taken with this little hobbit. Not too hot, and will fit the fireplace nicely.
Thanks for all the advice
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They are very good, friends have one, they are very fond of it and it seems very controllable.
Clearview is another good one but post brexit importing maybe an issue, unless they have a dealer in the EU.
Of course if the Russians attack the EU, you maybe better off with a Burley fireball, was the most efficient stove available.
The saga continues.
Visit to the Jøtul (can it really be pronounced “Joe tool”?) showroom in Saumur today. It turns out you need 300mm clearance above the poêle, which I don’t think we have. (There’s some space in the chimney itself, however.)
So it looks like we’re back to an insert (because Madame wishes to keep the fireplace-so-ugly-only-its-mum-could-love-it).
But the good news is that Jøtul make inserts.
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In Scandi languages the J is a Y sound.
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That’s even worse!
And if ø has a “u” sound …
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