How good a job has Bojo and his team done so far

You have my sympathies - sounds like more than enough for one person to go through.

OK, that is probably going to leave you more at risk of further chest problems.

Also a real problem for anyone with a history of respiratory disease, in fact viral infections often lead on to bacterial ones as they do affect the immune system. The bacteria then “take advantage” of the fact that you are vulnerable.

Chemo?

Thanks for the clarification Nigel…:pray:

Why shocked? It’s disproportionate for a healthy 50 year old to lock themselves away for 3 months for fear of contracting COVID-19. This is not the Black Death or Ebola. Their chances of death or serious illness are very low. There are reports of many children anxious about catching the killer virus when the risks to them are negligible.

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Me too, Eddie. Do medical people become blasé about illness because they see so much of it? If someone is choosing to shield that is their choice, and one less person out and about to pass it on. I have a chronic illness and an elderly mother, I also have close family who are fit, well and younger than me. If they get it then they can pass it on to one of us for whom it could be very serious indeed.
Izzy x

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There are very few young & fit people dying of COVID-19. It is very much a disease of the elderly & those with underlying health problems. In the UK 99% of deaths have been in those over 50.

We are following our Doc’s advice…
We’ve known him for 20 years and he has earned our complete trust during that time…
and… he is well respected within his profession … a win-win for us I reckon… :hugs: :hugs:

Goodness me… Harold Shipman would have been in his element signing off death certificates during these troubled times…

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Why do you have to be so offensive? I’m just reporting the statistics.

One interesting point & as far as I know not applicable to any other infectious disease is that there are twice as many male deaths as female deaths. Is this because of some underlying gender difference or merely a reflection of different exposure in different jobs?

and why you so touchy? :roll_eyes: I hope you are not suggesting my comment refers to you in some way because that would be quite inappropriate, wouldn’t it.

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No. I had a tumour in the duct. I went to my GP’s as soon as I had the symptoms in my nipple. Two of them said that I had an abscess, which was true, but it was caused by the tumour. They only offered me antiobiotics, with which I do not get on very well. I asked for a surgical biopsy but they refused to do so.
I was in hospital with facial celllulitis and showed my breast to my specialist and then people began to take me seriously. I had the type of tumour which does not show up on mammograms and was only diagnosed by a deep biopsy. They took thirteen lymph nodes from my axilla, I was two years early for the signal node procedure, but they were inflamed by fighting the abscess.
I had tamoxifen and then I can’t remember but two other years of another drug, which was expensive.
I have been left with a weakened arm because of the missing lymph nodes.

Well that was bloody mistake. He’s mixing France up with the Far East.

Perhaps their jobs are a factor, perhaps women’s cardiovascular systems are a bit protected by oestrogen, perhaps men tend to be more overweight, perhaps men don’t wash their hands as much. Perhaps they think mask-wearing is for sissies.

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Geoff will appreciate this one, I am sure

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The author is a PhD physicist, civil libertarian, former anarchist and climate skeptic. Not my cup of tea. I’m going to wear a mask whatever he says.

The government seem to want  people to wear masks - Gove on The Marr Show this morning stated:

But they do not seem to want to require   that they do (except public transport). As David says they always shy away from demanding measures until it is too late - looking to blame any resurgence in numbers on the public perhaps?

Meanwhile we still have ~700 official new cases per day and ~150 deaths per day (which is significantly higher than France for roughly the same number of new cases).

The current figures do not add up anyway.

  • 150 deaths means true figure of 15000 new cases/day if we assume a IFR of ~1%
  • ONS data says 14,000 infections over 2 weeks

We either have a lot more cases that the official figures suggest or our morality rates are way higher than anyone else’s (or, more likely, a mixture).

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I wonder why he gave up anarchy. I wouldn’t have though one would wake up one morning with an inexplicable desire for big government.

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My OH had one last month, the MT was concerned so he wrote a prescription, called the local hospital and they were waiting for her when we got there. I had to sit in the car and eat the shopping for 5 hours on a Friday night!!! Fortunately it came back negative, antibiotics for a chest infection.

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That wasn’t an antibody test - it was a PCR test.

Deaths today would likely be proportional to new cases 2-4 weeks ago maybe even longer.

The UK is doing an awful lot more testing than France so number of cases reported is bound to be higher even if incidence is the same