I always thought Mandy was a bit dodgy

I do hope not. Transitory PMs were bad enough with the last lot.

What’s evident from this is that the back benches have realised that they have power so hopefully they’ll use it to get the govt on a better track and stop trying to be more extreme than Reform

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The question surely is whether Starmer should go, not whether it would lead to the revolving door charade of the last lot.

From what we know at the moment (ie what Starmer has admitted), the problem was McSweeney, his support for Mandelson in spite of what everyone knew about his continued friendship with Epstein, his providing information to Epstein, etc.

If Starmer doesn’t see that as a problem, which I fear he won’t (since he’s so bad at politics), then the stain will remain, at least until May (when surely enough will be enough).

That seems to be the issue. If/when it all goes horribly wrong in May, they need a scapegoat and it seems McSweeney will be it. Who to get rid of now, if anyone?

I think SKS’s problem is that if he doesn’t sack McSweeney now, he’s just a lame duck waiting for the chopper in May.

Whereas if he does sack him - and recognises his own part in the fiasco - then he can claim to be the man of principle I always thought he was.

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What does that actually mean, being able to pull the wool over more people’s eyes than not?

In this case, I’d suggest an inability to see the writing on the wall before you walk into it.

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I would agree. Those who are good at politics can see what is happening and why, but are also able to connect with people, both in the wider sense and also to build connections that are useful. Epstein would certainly have been one such if he’d kept to finance, rather than making his personal fantasies real, as well as enabling others to do the same.

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I hope it’s ok and not going to offend anyone if we can take a tiny peak into the Epstein files and the world of the ultra elite through their emails

You could also have posted that in the Supreme Court thread!

Yes the narrative fits several threads from taxing the super rich to as you mentioned the high court. Interesting in that video showing emails between the ultra rich and Epstein that they were planning a pandemic back in 2015! Also it’s mentioned again in 2017, I wonder when Bill Gates heavily invested in the pharmaceutical sectior?

Starmer appears to be willing to offer up Mandelson as a sacrifice.

quelle surprise

I don’t think it is more than basic self preservation TBH

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Speaking of dodgy, what’s going on here then?

Russian-backed useful idiots?

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They don’t seem very effective.

Back in the day, the KGB used Bulgarians for such things and they were very efficient.

It’s the same everywhere - can’t get the same quality of staff these days…

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Maybe there’ll be a chance for Ange to throw her hat in the ring (though she still owes the Revenue a few bob).

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Here’s hoping, though I think the Tory press will be pretty ruthless (and hypocritical) if she does

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Plus ça change, etc

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