It’s OK. We get it.
The dangers are at the sortie on roof, after the heat leaves the double whatevers
Have you checked your chimney at roof level.
Tar accumulates at the exit and it burns with the heat of poeles. Old chimnies were not meant for the high temps created by
I want to remove the tar because it heats up, turns red, produces carbon emmissions. It is dangerous and prohbited by european regs.
I have tried the local ramoneurs who do not understand the dangers or more acurately, now admitted, do not have the equipment to mount the roof to reach the goudron.
Te marie is useless - uninformed.
I of course tried the yellow pages. If you find a listing in Haute Savoie let me know. I have googled yhis subject which is why I know the regs. Now I just want to find a licensed professional who can do the work.
Vis a vis insurance. Local ramoneurs may do yhe work, but cannot produce the certificates required by ins., without which you cannot be covered.
Beware the grandson of the little old chimneysweep, who may drive a mercedes 4x4, but jnows nothing more than his ancestors, especially about pollution.
SO BACK TO SOLUTIONS - can we recommend a savvy ramoneur company with feet in 21st century
Oh, how I regret ever saying aluminium! My fingers typed quicker than my brain. That's a first for a Saturday morning!
I never knew about that until somebody in a village not so far away had their aluminium flue burn! I had no idea that aluminium burned, mind you we have double walled stainless steel so I had no reason to worry but still found out.
Pages jeune or ask the Maire
He he thanks.
Shows what I know about WBS!
Rob
In Cities in the UK you must use a DEFRA approved stove. I do not know if a similar rule applies in France but their are plenty of chimney evident and many are working.
Flues are stainless steel and not aluminium, aluminium can be used for gas not for solid fuels.
Wood burners are, rather "wood burning" is banned in a lot of towns and cities in France and the UK because of the carbon particle emissions reacting with other emissions; Remember the smog?! A lot of people buy them without checking the local rules, smokeless fuels in conurbations is more the rule.
Regarding tar removal, why would you want to remove it? It is in a stable state, if you are using a wood burner, you should have a flue, usually an aluminium tube to prevent fires. As far as I'm aware, no chimney sweep will remove tar, but you could try a builder.
This is my personal opinion. However, there are several excellent registered British chimney sweeps in France. A goodle search or ex-pat business directories will guide you to your local one. I'm happy to bow to their superior knowledge!
What about pollution?
How to find a ramoneur who will remove tar from roof.
Does anybody know how to find a ramoneur who will clean the tar accumulation off the chimney at the roof level.
What about air pollution.
Carbon emmissions kill. Worse than cars.
All poeles are banned in Paris and four,other cities. More restrictions to come.
Woodburners maybe cheaper, at cost to health.
If you install a wood burner you will have to declare to your home insurance company and your premium will be influenced by this
I'll second that. Apart from letting our Rayburn that heats the central heating, hot water supply (except when there is sun for the solar), is used to cook and heat the kitchen, plus a very big log fire, we have used less than James. Our door seal needs replacing by next year as well! So it seems like a vast amount to me.
Martha,
That's a lot of wood to get through in 6 months. We have burnt 15 cubic meters this winter and that has been enough to heat the whole house to a reasonable temperature even on the coldest days. We're fairly well insulated though. Have you had the chimney swept recently, also if the door seal is knackered the wood will burn faster and not give out much more heat. Since we installed a more efficient burner our consumption has dropped significantly and the temperature has risen.
James
I think your Jotul stove needs looking at Martha. We have a Jotul insert that heats our house extremely well, like you, we never turn the radiator on in the lounge but even though it is lit permanently, we only use about 6 cubic metres of wood over the winter.
One thing that makes it use more wood is when the seal needs replacing maybe you should check yours. Blimey, we get fed up of carrying our small amount of wood in, although I am getting crafty now, I make the kids bring a log in each time they run in and out :-)
Electric heaters are expensive to run. I have a Jotul woodburning stove that heats the main room (50 sq m.) so well that I never turn on the radiators in that room. When the oil burning boiler breaks down, the main room is warm enough to stay in very comfortably. I ordered 30 cubic meters of wood last year and still have some. The combination of the boiler for upstairs radiators and the wood stove for downstairs main room is the best I have been able to manage so far to keep costs down. I am looking into using compressed logs instead of wood next winter, as it is getting hard to carry the heavier logs of wood.
As foyers and poelles and all associated parafinalia are generally available to purchase as one wants from so many outlets I would offer conjecture that this is a non matter. If Poujoulat mention it on their site then maybe there is some milage but other wise just nonsence and an excuse for someone to increase a premium if they can get away with it.
For example the HETAS regs are widely mentioned on stove sites in the UK so it would follow that the same tack would be taken in France.
Catharine, Chris, Jane and others. Our insurance agent's daughter's birthday party was yesterday. So naturally we were at their house for the 10 minute apero for six hours. I asked Jerôme about this question, having seen it here yesterday morning and having installed our stove myself. Being a dead serious type he went to his computer and had a look at the entire Allianz site for this detail. He found there in NO reason for a higher policy for having an installation by a 'specialist'. The only stipulations are that all connectors and lining are standard and correctly in place in line with fire safety laws. They can, theoretically, be assessed by Allianz, but he says that that only ever happens after a fire, but in the event of a claim Allianz send in somebody from their office with the fire officer's report to see if a claim is valid. I was looking over his shoulder and despite several glass of fortified grape juice read just that. I asked if other companies do? He said that he assumed not because Allianz are stricter on such matters than many other insurers because their German HQ actually make the rules which the French adapt to the laws here. He thinks that probably all German and Swiss owned insurers are similar at the very least.
I'd really like to find out what is going on here. Please can you get back to me when you finish looking into this.
The branch of Allianz I am with is near St Omer, Pas de Calais. Where is your branch.