Marks and Spencer advent calendar

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And public administration. Quite tborough really. As in F.

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Yes, there was an implied “if he existed” in my post.

It seems that it is accepted that a “Jesus of Nazareth” did exist (e.g. see Historicity of Jesus - Wikipedia) though there is no corroboration of any of the religious mythology surrounding him.

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Biggest con ever (that’s pretty much all religions)

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All credit to Mary and Joseph for having a kid on Christmas day and resisting the temptation to call him Noel, desite the Angels’ encouraging them to do so. I’m buggered if i get the Mexican influence though.

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Wasn’t one of the three Wise Men from Tijuana? :slight_smile:

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But according to Marks and Spencer,Mary and Joseph didn,t have a kid on Christmas Day,the baby was born on the 10th of December,you see,we have all been getting it wrong for donkeys years(excuse the pun).

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You’ll have to see what the calendar shows on Christmas Eve.

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I once bought my ex wife an advent calendar in the discount pound shop. It didn’t have a number 14.

Same scenario???

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I bought Madame the Bonne Maman advent calendar. It’s been great: every day a new preserve of some sort.

I can’t help you with why M&S should have got 10th as Jesus’s birthday: I thought it was generally known that he was born around September and the church decided to celebrate it 25/12 to give people more hope than was offered by the pagan celebration.

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TBH I’d thought it was September too, but the actual time is so unimportant right now that it didn’t seem worth mentioning.

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September? Really? Oh the irony that he was conceived around Christmas.

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I don’t think there is any firm evidence for Jesus’ birth date one way or another:

The date of the birth of Jesus is not stated in the gospels or in any historical sources and the evidence is too incomplete to allow for consistent dating.

The day or season has been estimated by various methods, including the description of shepherds watching over their sheep

:smiley:

In the third century, the precise date of Jesus’s birth was a subject of great interest, with early Christian writers suggesting various dates in March, April and May

(Source: Wikipedia)

We don’t even know which year it was - it certainly wasn’t zero AD and could have been 4 to 6 BC.

So all this fuss over a window in an Advent calendar is pretty silly IMHO.

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This IS SF after all - fuss about minutiae is some of what we’re here for. :smile:

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Fairy nuff!

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apart from sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

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Imagine being a Jehovah’s Witness. Every morning for three and a half weeks in December, in your own living room, getting a wee paper door slammed in your face.

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Or a pessimist. Every time a door opens another one closes.

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We’ve done that one :slight_smile:

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It’s Christmas. You always get repeats at Christmas.

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