Ditto.
But there is another level of irony - which is that the desire is to “assist […] individual sovereignty [of EU nations]” as long as the manifestation of that sovereignty is not to form a cooperative group (big enough to rival the US).
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Not that long ago the USA went to war to prevent just that in their own backyard.
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The UK and the EU are having to walk a tightrope on both Venezuela and Greenland, condemning Trump outright may not help the situation in Ukraine and like it or not Europe needs US support.
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Yes, it’s plucky little Denmark this time around.
Surely someone has redone the Dad’s Army titles to replace the swastika with the Stars and Stripes
I couldn’t agree more. We’re looking to bring peace to Ukraine, supposedly with Trump and Putin on board but don’t think NATO on the ground in Ukraine will achieve that. Trump will take Greenland, what can we do about it? Nothing, we’re not strong enough. We’re all in a terrible situation and that buffoon knows it
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If he does it might not change that much apart from a NATO kerfuffle.
Trump’s ‘strategic’ claim is a similar front to Venezuela and the stopping of fentanyl flooding the US, when it actually comes from China via Columbia (whereas Venezuela principally supplies Europe with coke). Meanwhile the US already has a strategic air force base in Greenland and instead, as with Venezuela’s oil reserves, it’s actually about gaining access to Greenland’s rare earth mineral resources. However, there’s significant extraction problems which is why these haven’t already been tapped and Trump will probably be dead before they’re actually mined and made into anything useful.
All this might also prompt Canada to more closely align with the EU.
I believe (perhaps incorrectly) that the UK cannot deploy nuclear weapons without the agreement of the USA government, so we can’t nuke 'em.
But France can.
They already have done,
Canada will be the first non-European country to participate in the SAFE instrument, the €150 billion defence instrument that supports those EU member states that wish to invest in defence industrial production through common procurement , focusing on priority capabilities .
It is interesting that this thread comes so soon after the one questioning whether it was safe to move to France in next few years! I seem to recall being flamed for suggesting that things were very unsettled and that the future was uncertain.
If the American Leader seizes Greenland that will be the end of NATO as it will be a purely European alliance at that point. Surely no one would expect American troops to remain in Europe after that. Will that restrain Putin or will it embolden him? Will that make life in the EU more secure or less? Will governments increase social spending over military expenditure or reduce it?
In short will Europe become a safer and more secure place to live? Will the comfortable lifestyles that make life in France and the rest of the EU so desirable continue or will the continent take up a defensive posture and shift their economies to a war footing to resist?
Reportedly, 80 people were murdered by the USA, (Trump) in the attack on Venezuela , Civilians and military. ( 30 Cuban troops apparently) Imagine if Cuba had murdered 80 Americans.( i.e. white anglo-saxon Christian citizens. ) Trump would be angry. Very, very angry, SO ANGRY.
The whole thing is about oil, money, capitalism. AND his ego, of course.
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How old are you Alzero? How long do you expect to live? You could drop dead tomorrow 
So where are are you thinking of eking out you final years, and will your decision be based on living in a shitty place for a little longer or a great place for a little less longer?
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No, no, no…. Trump said nobody was killed. Nobody that wasn’t American that was of course 
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Canada is in NATO. Just saying for clarification,
I used to live within 20 miles of the main UK nuclear submarine base. I feel much safer here in France.
Under 1 to 3 kilometers of ice. 
No doubt the Orange Buffoon would try to melt it. Flooding the low lying countries. HEY, THEY CAN BUILD HOUSES ON STILTS! THAT’S A THING. RIGHT?
I’m 72, currently in SE Asia for a couple more years. Should the European situation go in a negative direction I suspect we will end up in Uruguay, about as far as we can get from the troubles. We would much prefer France: I have Lithuanian citizenship and can easily get residency, but Europe is not the only calm and stable place on this planet. We have spent the past 3 1/2 years visiting alternative nations and regions and have recently 1st hand experience of them. New Zealand and Australia are also viable candidates, however their residency requirements are much more difficult compared to France, at least for us.
What a terrible bore and s stressful to boot. You could be dead before you decide where’s “safe” to live. And also silly, if you don’t mind me saying so. For example, folk are leaving NZ in their droves and where in Oz would you live, Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, Cairns ?? All completely different.
Plus you don’t seem to give a shit about your affinity with whatever unfortunate jurisdiction/culture you do end up in. The term “Me, Me, Me” springs to mind,
I’m in France because I love France (warts and all) we don’t need carpetbaggers like you.
Edit: Why am I even responding to this plonker 
The curse of social media
And why am I attempting to have a reasoned adult discussion with someone who can only insult and not converse? I would enjoy having a mature debate and hearing well reasoned counter arguments, but apparently you have none. Personal insults and invective are no substitute for well thought and clearly stated opinions, at least not once we leave the schoolyard!
Edit: I thought the whole point of Survive France was the open exchange of ideas and to promote discussion and dialogue. Do you feel your post contributed to that end?
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@Alzero is anywhere 100% safe?
I do have the perfect solution should you really feel that a move to France might not be a good idea - Russia.
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I don’t think the purpose of SF is to persuade people to move to France.
Your idea of moving somewhere “safe” is - as far as I can tell - uniquely American, though it’s probably also something that interests older people. Nowhere is safe. Life isn’t safe. There are no counter-arguments to irrational feelings.
And when European people (in fact, anyone from a developed nation) hears Americans talking about where is “safe”, when they come from a country which allows its citizens to carry firearms, the best you can expect is the verbal equivalent of rolled eyes!
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