I think people are trying to explain that naturalisation isn’t a rule-based system. Yes, there are certain minimum requirements but we don’t have a right to citizenship in the way we might have a right to residence or a visa. It’s a gift, which may or may not be granted by the French state and the main thing they are interested in is how committed you are to having France as the centre of your life and interests. That is a judgement made by the ministry of the interior and no-one knows at any moment what they will judge you on.
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Yes you do if you are resident. Really you can’t have it both ways. If you want to be a legal resident for the purposes of seeking nationality then you need to declare your worldwide income every year. And if you earn enough then pay tax unless for example income from foreign rental.
I am not judging you, merely suggesting that your plans are flawed.
How many people in the facebook group you mention have been successful gaining French nationality with remote working and not paying tax or social charges?
As Angela said motivation is critical in gaining nationality.
I do not care tuppence for your motivation. But the people who consider your application will care. I thought you were asking for advice, but it seems that you only want people to tell you what you want to hear.
If you simply want to know the rules, read them on the government website or ask your lawyer. Do not ask people on a forum.
I suggest you also consider the rules on tax and residency. When you say
that is not how it works. If you are here as a resident you declare worldwide income. If you are here as a visitor you do not submit a tax return at all and the year does not count towards your period of residence.
I can’t pay tax for visitor status but I will pay it when I change it to micro-entrepreneur. I didn’t say I won’t pay tax forever and then apply for it. You can’t assume my motivation, I’m just here to ask questions.
Students don’t pay tax and their stay also counted. I’m not challenging you but your answers don’t seem to be correct.
I am not sure why you say this because it does not seem to be correct.
Impôt sur le revenu : le cas des étudiants | Étudiant.gouv!
Impôt sur le revenu : le cas des étudiants
Le statut étudiant ne vous dispense pas automatiquement de l’impôt sur le revenu, en tout cas de la déclaration de vos revenus.
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Étudiant étranger : un avis d’imposition obligatoire
Que vous soyez imposable ou non, vous devez faire une déclaration de revenus aux impôts. Si vous n’avez pas travaillé, une fois l’absence de revenus déclarée, vous recevrez un avis de non-imposition.
As a student you should have submitted a declaration of income for each year you were in France.
Exactly that. So if you do not declare at all you will be irregular, and if you do declare you need to include all earnings including remote work or it is fraudulent.
If your aim is to seek nationality you can’t pick and choose what laws you abide by.
Good luck to you.
When my son was a full time student and was over the age of either 22 or 25 (can’t remember wich) he had to mandatorily do a tax return and he was working weekends and holidays and was also invoiced for taxe habitation but not foncières as he rented a flat. Even his non-working student friends were obliged to fill one in and submit and all of them were well below any imposable taxes but it was still the rules.
Indeed. Why would any adult living in France not have to fo a declaration, student or not.
Visitor status is like retired status, anyway I don’t have time for this, bye
Yea I did it, it was zero
I think you should pay a/another lawyer for advice instead of asking random people online and getting snippy when they address your questions in good faith, but you don’t like what they say.
I’m saying this politely in English, what I’m thinking in French is not so measured.
It isn’t!
I guess you might have time to consider these things in a few years time when your application is rejected because you have not followed the rules.
And I don’t have any more time to waste on someone who is so pointlessly aggressive. Bye.
I don’t understand why people here have entertained you for so long. If you are serious, act seriously.
You should ask and pay a professional for their considered opinion and advice on the rules. Otherwise you are just winging it.
Personally I think you are only a tyre kicker
If you do not understand the difference and implications of declaring your income and paying zero tax / not declaring income, being a visitor / being retired, you should not be looking for help on a forum where people assume you understand at least the basics. It will only lead to misunderstandings on both sides.You need to pay a professional who will deal with everything for you.
He/she hasn’t been back since we gave unpalatable (to her/him) advice.
Without reinvigorated a previous thread about whether remote work is or isn’t allowed on a visitor visa, I just add that perhaps it will go overlooked by the fisc for a year. However immigration is so much stricter it seems a stupid risk to take.
I can NOT even apply for a tax number casue visitor can’t have economy activites, please stop spreading false information. Many retired people use visitor visa.
Casue you guys are giving false information and being impolite. You don’t even know me and determined my visa will be denied, how rude are you? I’m here to ask how many months can I leave France, not to ask your opinions about my tax status right now. I have consulted lawyers and I can work remotely with visitor visa as long as I don’t engage with french company. Even the prefecture asked like this, please stop spreading false information and negative energy.
I have asked lawyers if you read my post, I just come here to ask people’s experience but obviously you guys don’t even know the answers and being very rude