Quooker hot tap

Standards set in 2005 limit water temperatures in water heaters to between 50C and 60C for small heaters, and 55C and 60C for larger heaters.

The water in the Quooker tank is heated to a temperature of 108 °C ! Hence, not permitted in France.

Mind you, the GROHE Red water system delivers filtered, 100°C hot water.

The Insinkerator heats to 98c, it has a thermostat so you can set the temperature.

Maybe the best thing for anyone wanting to install one is to check with a certified plumber in France. No one wants a legality issue to deal with when it comes time to sell the property. :worried:

Obviously highly illegal,

So highly illegal that Quooker have a website in France with the product being sold all over the place :joy:

Typical h&s not knowing how to take thumb out. A bit like my party piece: you can have 8 x 60W bulbs on a single switch, but you cannot have 42 x 3W LEDs…

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On the sales particulars for the house dont forget to write its got an illegal hot tap :wink:
Now is it a rule or an actual law (illegal)
Dont forget france’s largest 3 pool companies fit salt chlorinators to pools that are rented. :roll_eyes:

Imust admit when we bought the house my view was that we would up sticks and move permanently to France as soon as we could.

Now that retirement is closer (but still 5 years away) my view is somewhat more nuanced - I have to say in no minor part to conversations on SF.

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Yep, I know…I think at the time, a few years back I had an adverse reaction to posh Dutch kitchen layouts and they always had a Quookers installed. Don’t the new ones also dispense chilled water too?

I don’t know - ours is about 10 years old and just does cold mains water plus normal hot and the boiling water option.

They can do, £££ subject to a bit more money. The lady on the TV advert looks like my old CFO.

Susannah,
…the water in the Quooker heats to 98C NOT 108C - if it did all you’d get out of it would be super-heated steam !
I imagine there weren’t quookers (et al) back in 2004 when the legislation was being prepared. It envisaged water supplied to washbasins and showers etc rather than a dedicated child-proof tap in a kitchen. After all nobody’s coming after your kettle which pours 100C steam out of the spout until it shuts off, and that’s certainly not child-proof !

What a difference a few degrees can make!

My brother in law had Quooker come out as he wasnt happy and at the delivery point it was 98c he complained as the advert stated 100c but this was around 10y ago.

Also I believe the Quooker taps aerate the “boiling” water stream to turn it into fine droplets so it will not cause a serious burn if you did put your hand under the flow momentarily. They contrast this with a kettle of boiling water tipping over which apparently would cause an immediate scald.

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I am genuinely amazed that of the 200 odd views of this, only a handful have a hot tap! I thought hot taps were the norm these days. Obviously not!

I did a quick Google on domestic accidents involving children and kettles. A lot! An interesting abstract from a group in Iceland concluded that a tank of boiling water on a kitchen top with a wire extending from its bottom is not good to have with children, and maybe consider a hot tap as a safer alternative.

They are pretty common place for the more well off in NL where I seam to recall Quookers are/were made.

I think the Quookers etc. are definitely safer, and more convenient - yes they are expensive up front but in our case the saving on not repeatedly boiling a kettle for tea and coffee, and not heating up 30 metres of pipe in the roof to bring hot water for washing up from the roof tank, has easily paid for it!

But like a lot of convenience gadgets until you have had one and experienced the benefits it’s hard to justify the upfront cost.

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We had one in UK and wanted to install one in our France house kitchen but the plumber and electrician said “Non!”

My husband is perfectly happy with the Bialetti pot on the indiction hob. So all’s well that ends well.
:coffee:

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We have six ‘boiling taps’, three in our main house, one in the semi-trog holiday home and two in our house in Morocco. I do remember very well that our French plumber saying that they were prohibited without mentioning any legal reasons.

I suspect they’re a little like an ice cream maker or pasta machine - if you ‘need’ one then you need one, but otherwise they’re just gadgets to the rest of us.