Renewal of Carte de Sejour

Good grief… off with their heads !
It certainly wouldn’t amuse me to be treated like that
(well, pretending to guillotine 'em would make me smile and might well give them pause for thought… :wink: )

My married name is the name by which I have chosen to be known in France and shows clearly on all official bits and bobs… although my maiden name appears, as secondary… which is fair enough

A variant on the above theme. By coincidence I was looking through the steps required to renew my EU family member CdS over the weekend. (I know how to have fun!).

I was struck by the assumption - faithfully reflecting the EU regulations that underpin the issue of an EU CdS - that it’s seemingly only the EU citizen’s wealth, resources, medical coverage etc that counts towards establishing the right to live in the EU, not that of the accompanying spouse…

In my case, as the non EU spouse, I’m the one in receipt of a pension (and in effect our sole source of income, bar sundry interest received). It will be interesting to see how the French authorities react to the fact that my wife, the EU citizen, has virtually zero income, ie far below the SMIC level… Common sense suggests I should ignore the demand for details of her income alone, and present details of the joint family income/assets etc.

I’ll be interested in how that goes as we’re in a pretty similar situation. I’m banking on getting the Withdrawal Agreement Residence Permit but keeping the EU spouse in reserve.

Surely it’s not uncommon for the EU-citizen to have less finances than the “non-EU-other-half”… ???

But why not do our little bit to try to change attitudes, where we can? Being an immigrant doesn’t preclude that. If anything, one of the big arguments in favour of immigration is that it enriches the host country and can perhaps change it for the better .
I wouldn’t expect an immigrant to the UK to stand by meekly when they encounter bigotry or prejudice, out of some misplaced sense of deference to the host culture. So why should I behave any differently as an immigrant myself, in France?
I do know what you mean, though. At some point, exhaustion sets in and it’s easier to just play along.

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Hmm… I’m wondering if some bright spark might interpret this as “incorrect/fraud/whatever”.

Someone will know the answer…

Meanwhile, I would suggest that one is totally up-front about things… even if it leads to extra paperwork/interviews/whatever… and even if it seems absolutely daft… :rofl:

If someone can home-in on something you’ve put… and triumphantly declare… “ah, that is not true… you’ve put down incorrect info… whatever…”
it could backfire on you quite nastily…

This will be very interesting. Keep us posted!

I reckon you’ll get the WARP, John.

One of my friends who was refused a WARP and went down the spouse of an EU national route was finally told by the Prefecture this week that they are going to give him a 10-year residence permit as a spouse of an EU national. Rather than just the 5-year permit required under the relevant directive.
This makes us think someone in the Prefecture has realised they were wrong and that he should in fact have been given a WARP.
Best of luck!

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just make sure you get it in your maiden name… @JohnH :rofl: :rofl:

The consular team seems quite confident, as they’ve never had a case raised to them, so fingers crossed.

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I don’t think this is the case at all! All I am saying is that if you read the EU regulations literally, they seem to only want details of the EU citizen’s resources. In my wife’s case = zero income.

What I am proposing is to show ALL of our household income - that is hardly fraud or incorrect.

At the end of the day, the EU regulations are trying to ensure that we are not a burden on the finances of France. By showing ALL our income (and assets) we hopefully can comfortably demonstrate that we would be no burden whatsoever on France’s finances. This is a million miles away from incorrectly reporting key information - I’m struggling to see how you could possibly think this. Far from backfiring on us, I think that it will help the process of issuing a CdS, whereas answering its questions literally might lead to it being refused, necessitating further work and responses.

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@George1 I wasn’t suggesting you would do anything incorrect… just that someone (being blooxy minded) might take it as being so if figures are simply added together … and throw a spanner in the works… :dizzy_face:

giving full chapter and verse, very, very clearly stating the whole situation , certainly seems a good way to go…

I’m possibly over-thinking things… sorry.

as I’ve said… you can’t be the only person in this situation… there must be lots of others.

EDIT: I reckon this is an interesting subject for discussion next time I’m at table with a particular gang of French pals… they are a mixed bunch, some more high-flying than others… so some will be as ignorant as I am, but others might/should have some useful input … :crossed_fingers:

A much simpler solution would be for him to just divorce her and marry me.

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Here in Vendée that would definitely be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Being a divorcee in this part of rural France is just as bad as being Parisian. Basically Pariah status. :slight_smile:

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Agreed. Whereas being a mistress has enormous status. :slight_smile:

Absolutely. Vive La Concubinage !!!

I’ve got a file with them all in it - and parents’ birth certificates too as I’ve been asked for them before. Oh and my S1 and evidence of all taxes paid each year!

Well done. Certainly makes things much easier to find the next time you need them.

Well a big thank you to everybody that helped me out with my problem… and yes… I have been sitting on my laptop for the past 48 hours compiling my ’special’ file… fun, fun, fun…….

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Glad you got everything sorted out now, we are tinking about retiring to France next year using the VLTS /S1 route. As we have the old age pensions and 5 small private pensions we were thinking about still having them paid into UK bank account and transferring money every 3 months to save on transfer fees. Do you think this would cause us problems like you have had further down the line?