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Which all comes back to Cooper (at the time) and Starmer’s bloody mindedness. The Starmer of today is a hardliner, IMO Cooper is weak (and a personal disappointment) and was only doing his bidding. she will also be a disaster in the FO.

This excerpt from a Guardian article captures the Starmer conundrum well I think, and explains why I dislike the man more with everyday that passes. I think most of his fans must now be in Reform because he’s doing a wonderful job to boost their party.

" The international human rights system – the rules, principles and practices intended to ensure that states do not abuse people – is under greater threat now than at any other point since 1945. Fortunately, we in the UK couldn’t wish for a better-qualified prime minister to face this challenge. Keir Starmer is a distinguished former human rights lawyer and prosecutor, with a 30-year career behind him, who expresses a deep personal commitment to defending ordinary people against injustice. He knows human rights law inside out – in fact, he literally wrote the book on its European incarnation – and has acted as a lawyer at more or less every level of the system. (Starmer is the only British prime minister, and probably the only world leader, to have argued a case under the genocide convention – against Serbia on behalf of Croatia in 2014 – at the international court of justice.) He is also an experienced administrator, through his time as director of public prosecutions (DPP), which means he knows how to operate the machinery of state better than most politicians do.

Unfortunately, there’s someone standing in Starmer’s way: a powerful man who critics say is helping to weaken the international human rights system. He fawns over authoritarian demagogues abroad and is seeking to diminish the protections the UK offers to some vulnerable minorities. He conflates peaceful, if disruptive, protest with deadly terrorism and calls for musicians whose views and language he dislikes to be dropped from festival bills. At times, he uses his public platform to criticise courts, whose independence is vital to maintaining the human rights system. At others, he uses legal sophistry to avoid openly stating and defending his own political position, including on matters of life and death. He is, even some of his admirers admit, a ruthless careerist prepared to jettison his stated principles when politically expedient. That person is also called Keir Starmer."

Now Even Banksy is the ā€œenemyā€. I think his mural sums up the state of affairs in SS GB well.

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Has he missed the point? The judges haven’t yet delivered any verdicts on the current Palestine Action matter. Surely, at this time, it is the executive not the judiciary that should feature?

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Or the blind man in his wheelchair holding his sign upside down. Those brave boys are certainly going after the difficult, hardline ring leaders.

The Met has a dreadful reputation anyway, corrupt, misogynistic, racist, etc. etc. I wonder when yet again we’ll hear another Met commissioner uttering the meaningless words ā€œlessons have been learntā€.

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Well, it was quite an interesting debate until you weighed in and condemned the entire service.

Do you think the Met has a record to be proud of?

They should have asked Adrian Dunbar.

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Not really a question I can answer. It’s an organisation made up of 50,000 (?) individuals. It doesn’t take very many to dent a reputation. Look at the Wayne Couzens effect. In my time I came across a few people I didn’t like, and maybe one or two I didn’t trust. I also came across many decent and hardworking officers and civil staff. All of the former would go to an armed incident with a piece of wood shoved in their trousers.
I’m afraid I think it’s a pointless question. I wouldn’t damn the staff of Bristol Children’s Hospital because of what happened there. Or an entire Social Services department because of Maria Colwell, or Victoria Climbie. Robert Mark did inherit a corrupt part of the Met, but I know of officers who turned down the opportunity to join CID or The Sweeney because they wouldn’t accept a brown envelope. What large organisation hasn’t got issues that need addressing? But, if you are the management of such an organisation you need to be eternally vigilant.

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I’ve no doubt. As in all large organisations, when there is trouble in the ranks I blame the top management, not the troops.

As for recent news aye, well, hmm.

I don’t think that the mural is about judges in particular, but rather that the judge in the mural is depicted as representing the ā€˜State’ in general by using a visual that everyone can instantly recognise.

I believe that the Government has a PR problem of their own making by taking to law to suppress an organisation which is viewed by many as being expressive of public opinion, whilst at the same time failing to take any meaningful action in relation to Palestine and the ongoing genocide in parts thereof. Additionally, the UK Government’s supply of arms to Israel, and failing to apply any really effective sanctions against Israel, makes it easy for people to identify with the school of thought that believes that the UK Government is effectively complicit in the genocide.
People perceive the UK Government as not only failing to take appropriate action, but at the same time seeking to suppress the one organisation that demands said action.

Don’t just cancel trade talks —- try banning all trade. Don’t just sanction some Israeli government members, but sanction all of them. Ban EL AL from UK airspace and send a warship or two to protect the humanitarian flotilla currently en route to Gaza.

IF the UK Government is seen to be taking all the action that it can, then there will be no need for demonstrations in Parliament Square.

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100%, it the misapplication of the law that’s the problem.

It’s not ā€œthe Stateā€ which is said to be limiting demonstrations, it’s the government.

It’s the Conservatives who blame the judiciary when they don’t apply the law as they would like it to be applied.

If the artist had wanted to represent the State, he could have drawn Starmer or Cooper.

And then there’s this

Less artistic but a statement nonetheless :roll_eyes:

This is getting out of hand

I think (and Heaven forbid that I try and interpret a Banksy) that he was showing how the pillars of the State are being bent to the corrupt wishes of an elite few, Starmer and Cooper. The judge isn’t the target, he’s just the tool. Like the police.

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