Sums up today's USA for me

Again obviously cannot be proven but a nitrogen gas atmosphere is alleged to be painless … . I was getting one of those lung function tests about 18 months ago which involves taking a deep breath and on command expelling it as fast as possible for velocity and as deeply as possible for lung volume capacity … I found myself looking up at my shoes when I came around … One Breath , That quick …and th.. If there was no oxygen to breath in when slumped ..I would never have woken.

But otherwise I share the revulsion of others here to a death penalty

Michael Portilo did a documentary on the death penalty many years ago, or rather how it should be carried out, and nitrogen hypoxia was proposed then. He even tested it in a chamber.

And it seems some states now use it.

But I also don’t believe in the death penalty

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/state-and-federal-info/state-by-state

Like many things in the US, not all states have the death penalty.

Not only that, the legal implications of voluntary intoxication (for example) vary by state.

The land of the free and the home of the brave where they kidnap people from foreign countries without any due process of law, secretly fly them to Guantanamo Bay, imprison those people without trial for decades, and regularly submit these people to interrogative torture.
Doesn’t exactly fill a person with confidence.

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I wonder if anyone read the instruction on the 10 Commandments stone saying ‘thou shall not kill’

Choosy Christians.

Just another bad translation in the King James Bible.

The hebrew word is ratsakh.
Ratsakh is a general term for taking a human life. It covers intentional murder, accidental manslaughter, and involuntary killing.

So the death penalty does fall under the whole eye for an eye bit.

Be that as it may ..Christianity is predicated not on the Law of Moses and the Old Testament .. It is based on the interpretations of this person Jesus and what He said … Sermon on the Mount stuff and the two commandments …

Well yes.
And Jesus being a great leader, and being a Jew himself, all of his disciples decided to be Je… oh, hang on…

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The requirement to become quasi Jew to be a Christian was one cut to many for converts ..(if you take my meaning } ..So Paul had the rule removed …

You do know that the UK has regularly carried out extraordinary renditions of terror suspects to various places such as Diego Garcia where third party interrogators used techniques not allowed on UK soil to extract information?

I haven’t read that. Where did you see it please?

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I’ve seen many allegations, and Cameron announced an enquiry in 2010.
Here is a report on the report…or lack of it.
Truth Still Eludes on UK Involvement in Rendition and Torture | Human Rights Watch Truth Still Eludes on UK Involvement in Rendition and Torture | Human Rights Watch

Reminds me of tbe old adage:
Only ask questions if you really want to know the answer.

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Or if you alreday know the answer :roll_eyes:

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[quote=“Robert_Hodge, post:26, topic:60867”]
The land of the free and the home of the brave where they kidnap people from foreign countries without any due process of law, secretly fly them to Guantanamo Bay, imprison those people without trial for decades, and regularly submit these people to interrogative torture.
[/quote]Not to mention killing people in boats in the Caribbean because they MAY be drug traffickers.

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Oh yes. And be sure to kill off these low level survivors of attacks, just in case they live to give info about those higher up the chain.

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Here’s the summary of the investigation:

https://isc.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/20180628-HC1113-Report-Detainee-Mistreatment-and-Rendition-2001-10.pdf

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Thank you, I’ll read that.

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Indeed so.
Of course if you then publish the strikes by showing the video, then it must be OK to do it because if it wasn’t, well, you wouldn’t show the video would you.
It’s a crafty way of making unlawful things acceptable to the general public.

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Yep.
The acceptable face of snuff movies!?