That Vitamin Movie

General Discussion
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Wow, what a lot of detail!

I'm already pretty much up-to-speed on vitamin D, and the requirement to get enough D3 throughout the year. Yes, you can get it from sunlight, but you would need to get your levels tested to know whether you have enough. Certain people don't make any, and I think it tends to diminish with age too. D3 supplements are cheap when bought from the US (something like 10 or 20 euros for a year's supply). One thing that seems not to be too well known yet is the requirement to take vitamin K2 with D3. D3 helps your body (among other things) to make calcium available for use, and K2 then tells your body where to put the calcium. This point is very important.

On vitamin C, I have read the book by the person I believe to be THE authority on the subject in the UK, namely Steve Hickey. He says that "Natural vitamin C is the same molecule as synthetic L-ascorbic acid. They are chemically identical with no known differences, whether physical, chemical or biological, so there is no advantage to supplementing with 'natural' vitamin C over L-ascorbic acid." For me, that's pretty clear, and I don't therefore understand the people who say that the molecules are different. As for the dosage, I don't believe we can ge enough from our diet, it's simply not possible. If you consider that the richest natural source is the kiwi fruit, that each contains perhaps 70mg, and that you need normally 70mg per kilo of body weight, you begin to see the problem.

The other vitamins are what really caught my interest in the film, with B12 and Niacin apparently being very helpful in depression (if I remember right, I need to watch again and make notes). I also liked the statements of Andrew Saul, who said that doctors were well-meaning but very busy people with an unfortunate belief that if they don't know something then it's not worth knowing. Then we couple that with our own belief that if a doctor doesn't know it it's not worth knowing, and bingo, we have a recipe for killing any possibility of alternatives and putting a brake on the spread of new knowledge.

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Does this below answer your Question Ian? I justput the question into my search engine.



Note is says Ascorbic Acid is a SYNTHETIC form of Vitamin C - not a Natural one!

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Did you know that ascorbic acid is actually a synthetic form of vitamin C?

If you are learning this for the first time, it can be a rather shocking realization as almost all vitamin C supplements on the market use ascorbic acid.

Even more disturbing – ascorbic acid is frequently marketed as natural vitamin C. Truly natural forms of vitamin C and synthetic ascorbic acid seem to be used interchangeably.

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Hi Ian, I tried the link out a vested interested but it wouldnt load.

However, today and on others. I’ve been researching vitamins,For various health reasons. Thyroid Uk has been promoting Vit B12 for a long time now. It is essential for the endocrine system. But it is essential to get it blood tested. So I did, I demanded my doctor test for it, he keeps giving me a mo they dose of Vit D, useful but not essential to my health, as I am capable of leaving the house and getting it naturally! Also Vitamin C and many others through having a good glas of Multifruit juice every day.

However my last test in December showed my Vit B 12 level was below the norms, according to the LaborTory in Le Mans, Pole Sante Sud. It’s one of the specialist Labs. Given my red and white cells platelets and leucoctyes are also abnormal, platelets dropping fast.

There does seem to be somewhat of a connection, working on and on through the various conditions. However a healthy gut and endocrine system are the essentials of life! I now talk to my pharmacist, and take blood test results with me, because my own doctor ignores the *results! They are the ones where results are outside ‘normal’ parameters! My liver, thyroid and haemo specialists are interested only in the speciality of thAt organ or gland!

Through young HonCode & Trusted websites, there is an enormous amount of quality scientific and specialist information on the Internet especially ncbi.nim.nih.gov, which has links to the published research I formation via Webmed! All this info is free, copyable and printable!

Im not suggesting everyone starts getting paranoid and becomes a Hypochondriac! I don’t need to find a reason to have any infections, blood disorder, or medical event. I’ve enough evidence with blood tests and known health history since birth!

Unfortunately French health/research websites are almost all in French, no use to me in such an important subject.

However I’m happy to recommend, for those interested, you check out any meds you are given or buy, on drugs.com and Blood test results on labtestsonline. Most day-to-day medical health problems arise from or are connected with the endocrine system, and rely on having the necessary vitamins and minerals, and to have the healthy gut. Folate and Feritin are also good tests to ask for with the VitB12 one!

Also one of the reasons why many in UK have IBS and gluten problems, is the wheat mostly imported from the USA and used in UK Flour.a specific healthy additive has been removed by some of the suppliers. France I believe produces all her own wheat or imports from here on the European continent. How many watched the Doctor in the House programme a couple of days ago, I think. Also several days ago How the Rich Stay Healthy. Documentary with a Dr Chritian Someone, as the presenting Journalist. It was interesting to listen to what the medical specialists had to say, with the various tests the Dr underwent same ones the rich pay for!

If my French Med Traitant paid as much attention to my results as I do, other expats Ive met and his French patients, then the health system, just like the NHS, wouldn’t be spending a fortune on
health issues, the Queues would be as long in the Pharmacys either, smaller plastic bags to carry all those meds out, less waste to recycle!

Tomorrow I have to see my Dr to get my next blood test ordnance - oh and by the way since my previous request for the VitB12 test and result, I am now on ALD for all health! Confirmed by CPAM last week.

Re Type 2 diabetes - I was overweight a few years ago, previous dr ordered a blood test, said I was “borderline” Type 2, so he put me on Metformine, it didn’t agree with the Levothyroxin I have been on since 2000. Blood tests show you are or are NOT within the norms. You either are or are not type 2! 'Borderline’is not a proper medical diagnoses!
What the Metformin did was give me a swollen spleen, I also have the scan results that show it. What I didn’t have back then in about 2010 was the knowledge I now have. That swollen spleen was the stRt of my blood cells going haywire. I am now well below Norms on those counts. We have anti-biotics and we have Pro-biotics. When taken, both are essential to the Endocrine and other systems, just as VitB12 is!

Sorry for the Health lecture! I’m determined not to leave this world without a b…y good fight with my Drs. A final tip look at Vit 12 Deficiency website and see where that takes you with its links!

Now I’ll see if I can get the link again Ian and see if any of what I e written ties in with it.

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I will watch that later thanks. A lot of things are toxic........in a large dose, take salt for instance.

It's often something said by people of little knowledge, along with those "chemicals" which we all know occur in nature anyway but when expressed as a chemical it takes on a sinister over tone. Partly due to the media peddling their bullsh1t rags and getting into the minds of some rather than addressing the facts.