As the BBC and other left-wing media outlets consider that the “science” is proved beyond any doubt, they can corporately ban any discussion of other possibilities - their version of “free-speech”.
But there is another well documented side to the story.
Try this for a start.
Thanks for the reply, Lawrence. I agree that there’s a natural warming and cooling of the planet, volcanoes, as an example, do it all the time. The problem is that the current rate of warming is far beyond anything we have ever seen, and we will not have the capacity to adapt to these changes if we do not slow it down. If this accelerated warming started from when we started burning fossil fuels, then there’s lots we can do about it.
Thanks for the book recommendation. My own suggestion would be The New Climate War by Michael Mann who is a distinguished climate scientist. His book describes the tactics of the fossil fuel industry to deny, divert and deflect us away from what is happening, often by dividing us, all in the interests of selling more oil, coal and gas. And, I’m not knocking that industry for their business plan, even though their own scientists revealed a long time ago that it was detrimental to our health, but now is the time to make changes.
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I am amazed you consider the BBC left-wing, but I suppose in the far-right environment of mainstream UK politics that is how they seem.
Seen from France they have a centrist/paternalist mild-right line.
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A sign that the BBC are reasonably in the centre is the way both left and right think they support the opposite side. 
Naturally individual reporters will have their own views that sometimes slip through a little.
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Oh dear, another thread muted.
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The problem with climate change is that getting it wrong means that the Earth turns into something which looks more like Venus.
Climate is a complex system which we don’t fully understand (so messing with the controls is inadvisable), it is also “metastable” - which means that there are stable conditions which can withstand some changes in the inputs but push it too far and it will “flip” into another stable state.
Take water vapour for example, it’s a greenhouse gas BTW which is part of the point I want to make.
While the atmosphere is cool, water vapour condenses (clouds and rain) which is, obviously, good. Clouds reflect some of the Sun’s heat so even though H2O is a greenhouse gas it can offset some of its own effect.
But push the atmosphere too much - I think around 50°C is the tipping point and it does not condense, there’s no rain and you just get the greenhouse gas effect causing a runaway increase in temperature which, um, boils the oceans dry.
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Blimey - you guys are really digging them up now!
Climate Resistance (dot.org!) is not an organisation - it’s the obscure blog of Ben Pile, again not a climate scientist, or any other kind of scientist - but another far-right politico. He was a paid researcher of former UKIP MEP and climate science denier, Godfrey Bloom (another - non-scientist - in fact a former army officer and investment banker, known mainly for assaulting a reporter who asked him about sexism in UKIP, after he referred to a group of women as ‘sluts’).
Pile also spoke at UKIP events. and was a regular contributor to articles by the late Telegraph climate science denial columnist, Christopher Booker. Now he writes for Spiked - funded by the notorious Koch brothers (a study by Yale University published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences examined over 20 years of data and found that ExxonMobil and the Koch brothers have been key actors in funding the distribution of climate change disinformation).
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I’m appreciating everyone who has voted on the poll, please keep it coming, it helps.
The film ‘Une fois que tu sais’ (once you know)is well worth watching. It’s been showing around France in local cinemas for over a year. It’s mainly in English. A real eye opener for people who don’t understand (or don’t want to understand) how serious things are. It’s already been exported over to the UK and to other countries. You can find links to the film and more information on the web.
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Thanks, Nicky, I shall watch it. Good title.
Hi Hutan, just wondering why you are asking and what is it helping?
Thanks
Izzy x
Hi Izzy,
A good question, thanks. I’m trying to do what I can with the knowledge I’ve learned, the skills I have and the urgent, and sometimes desperate, need I feel to make difference to what is heading our way. So, I go on training courses, write articles and appear on podcasts trying to raise awareness and influence others.
Ive had a thought that as expats we may be slightly removed from the debates, the conservations at work and in the pub etc. I’m also a mental health first aider and I’m seeing more and more people with anxiety over the climate. So the poll and post is to see what I can do next.
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I’m not understanding why immigrants should be removed from the debate? My impression is that people here are much more aware of things like water, and are more directly affected by climate changes, with fires, floods and catastrophic harvests. After all the % of France’s GDP that is generated by agriculture is about three times that of UK. There is as much, if not more, coverage.
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I guess Hutan had in mind language and cultural barriers Jane - making it harder for them to engage in local conservation or action groups, or even in discussions in the local bars etc.
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Our local groups are pretty welcoming. We are members of a couple and enjoy things like the ciné-debates. I would have thought most people could get something out of these, even if their French is not fluent. Local issues affect everyone who lives in a place so showing interest is likely to be appreciated and people will make the effort back.
I got the impression that most on here (apart from the Brexit escapees) are French speakers and pretty well integrated so well able to have a heated debate in a bar.
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As Geof has said, that’s the case. I trained here in France as a Climate Reality Leader, just a title, but nearly all of my colleagues are French and engaging with the French. I saw perhaps a group of people who might not have the usual contact they’d have at home.
This is home.
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@anon57874331
From my point of view…
Your first paragraph full of questions better for a classroom for kids.
Do you not think we don’t ask them ourselves. After all we can all read and have access to the media. And I think most of us trying to do our bit?
1st paragraph.
What’s the difference between climate and weather? What is climate resilience? Climate change hasn’t affected me so is it real? What about heatwaves? Can I get assistance in adapting my house? What should I be doing, and what about my children?
Your second paragraph… Comes across to me as self promoting and a bit iffy, somewhat future guru en herbe. (My personal opinion) But that’s the way I feel when reading.
2nd paragraph.
Last year, as someone deeply concerned about the climate crisis, I trained as a Climate Reality Leader , under former Vice-President Al Gore and his team. The aim is to engage with others, share the education, encourage change and assist with other people’s concerns, and I write articles, appear on podcasts and do presentations. There’s great strength when people work together. I’m thinking of creating a platform, website, Facebook Page or similar where people can share information, thoughts, ideas and would like to judge the interest with this simple poll, please. Thanks. Please feel free to add any comments.
Concerning the climate crisis, are you …?
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As for the questionnaire…I think you over simplified somewhat for an adult audience. Some other in-depth questionnaire would be more appropriate IMHO.
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