Why a backup is a godsend

So we tried the free Recuva programme but it was going to take up to 24 hours to complete the process. This meant keeping the PC with all the drives switched on for this amount of time.

Stuart wasn’t happy with doing this but at 0630hrs this morning, the Recuva programme finished and we weren’t sure how to retrieve the results. After research we realised that it needed more time looking for solutions and would take longer than we had time for (we had a 1000hrs RDV) so we turned the PC off.

Then when we got back home we tried to recover the data from Recuva only to find out that the restored data is not kept by them. Bloody hell - what a flipping waste of time.

We looked at using the Disk Drill Data Recovery software but before we shell out 100$, is there anyone here that has used this programme. In reading all the info on the site, it would appear that there is even a chance of recovering the data on the dead drive but we’ll come to that a bit later on after trying to find out more about Disk Drill Data Recovery.

So guys, anything to offer us please ?

Further update:

We bought the disk drill recovery programme (costing over 100€) but consider it’s been worth shelling out because we have eventually recovered around 80% of the lost files. Now all that’s left is for us to go through the recovered data and sort out what we don’t need - but we’ve managed to find the important files like Home Accounts.
We would recommend the programme to anyone who find themselves in the same position as we were. It does take a long time to recover the files (in our case 70 hrs) but now we can get our lives back in order.

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That’s great news, @Rachel05 , and a good reward for your (and Stuart’s) perseverence.

Was it this app? https://www.cleverfiles.com

That is the Disk Drill programme that we used for this recovery which, as we said, we highly recommend. Their CS support is good as well. They talked us through any problems we had. Boy, are we glad this is over ! Almost time to celebrate. Me thinks a glass of wine tonight would fit the bill :wine_glass:

Having started in IT during the days when crashes and hardware failures were pretty well a daily occurrence, I’ve seen and participated in some disasters in my time. I even wrote basic disk testing and data recovery software in my youf. So I’ve always been meticulous about my own and my families backups.

After retiring I dumped the Microsoft rubbish and moved to Apple which has a feature that backs up incrementally every hour to an external drive, and a recovery program that allows you to recover generations of files and folders. Very handy, but I still do full disk backups on a regular basis on a grandfather, father, son basis. I use a 20TB drive running as a 10TB RAID for this. If the house went up in flames all I need to grab is the RAID :slightly_smiling_face:

I also have my stuff in the cloud, iCloud and, until last week, OneDrive. My wife’s away so to keep myself amused I thought I’d rationalise my data storage strategy, which would involve days in the study :roll_eyes:

I want to share all my data across all my devices, desktop, documents, photos, home movies etc. etc. terabytes of stuff. I can then give access through file sharing to my wife and daughter. I do a lot of that already but it evolved overtime through a mixture of OneDrive and iCloud and it’s a bit of a pain to administer. I decided I’d dump OneDrive as I don’t like its design, and to consolidate into iCloud.

However, being the paranoid I am, I wanted to download everything on OneDrive, about 800 gigabytes, to make sure I hadn’t stuck something up there that wasn’t on one of my machines, in my Apple backups or on my RAID.

It was a nightmare. I assumed that I could initate a download for the whole shebang and just let it run away, but no. There were inexplicable network timeouts and inexplicable zip expansion failures. I spent, I suppose, three days downloading everything in bite (no pun intended) sized chunks. I finished last night and now I’ll start deduping and making sure everything is in iCloud and on my physical backups.

So this very longwinded tale is to basically say that OneDrive (and indeed iCloud) are really only file sharing and disk space saving services - they are not suitable for backups of critical data. There are dedicated Cloud based backup services, and I might look at those in due course, but unless one is using one of those (and even then perhaps) there is no substitute for multiple local physical backups.

It took me a while to realise that. Google Drive is a bit better for large uploads. I used to use BackBlaze for online backup, but restoring from it was clunky.

I ended up changing my way of thinking, and now use Google Drive for storage of files. I backup anything critical to OneDrive, though maybe not for much longer.

Storj seems to be reasonable for backup, but there will be others for those of us who want physical and cloud backup.

All good stuff. But frankly I wouldn’t just use the Cloud as a backup. Interesting your comment on BackBlaze, that was one of the services I was going to look at, in due course. I’m basically uncomfortable trusting my stuff exclusively to any cloud storage provider. I’ve been in the business too long :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Since I am also interested in divesting myself of all things American I was wondering whether I should get rid of my iCloud account and go for this?

Personally I wouldn’t go for it. I think there’s a better chance of Apple being around in five years than them. I think the Swiss bit is to create a feeling of security and integrity. I don’t want my data up a dark alley in Bulgaria.

pCloud was founded in Switzerland by Tunio Zafer and Anton Titov in 2013. While it operates out of Sofia, Bulgaria, the legal entity pCloud AG is based in Baar

Secondly, I don’t like their pricing structure. While subscriptions for software annoy me, I wouldn’t pay a one time charge. much less a “lifetime” one, for a service. Who’s lifetime, me or their company’s :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Aucun paiement mensuel ou annuel, aucun coût supplémentaire, un seul paiement pour obtenir votre stockage en ligne sécurisé à vie.

Where’s their ongoing revenue to pay for providing the service going to come from? If they are just selling lifetime plans then it looks a bit like a Ponzi scheme to me :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Finally, I didn’t like these one time offers based on silly “list” prices. Comparing like for like their list price is the equivalent of seven years of 2TB iCloud storage, and even their discount price is two and half years of iCloud.

Of course they could be totally respectable and legit, but I’d stick with iCloud. I think my families data and memories are priceless :slightly_smiling_face:

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I learnt a lesson about the importance of a backup. Back in May I thought best the technician in town deal with a computer problem, but before doing so I stored a mirror image of my current Windows system on an external storage disk, just in case, but didn’t need to see the technician after all because AI helped resolve the problem.

Today my computer crashed because of some memory conflict, and the blue screen of death appeared. Windows tried to resolve the matter automatically but couldn’t. AI helped get to scn /scannow in cmd but that didn’t help, but perusing the options on the wall of death saw mention of digital devices.

I hooked up the hard disk and chose devices and navigated to the mirror image and now I have my computer back. Windows copies any new folders & files onto the storage disk on a daily basis anyway, so haven’t lost anything. I learnt how to get out of the wall of death and am now going to set up automatic periodic mirror backups, if I can.

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Backups are the MOST important thing in personal computing, bar nothing. That includes tablets and phones too. If you’ve nothing you mind loosing, ça va, otherwise backup :slightly_smiling_face:

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What external backup drives are SFers using and how do you find them?

We have recently bought 3 of these which we are using for backups and storing photos, music, TV programmes and films. We have also bought Lacie, and WD drives but we prefer the Seagate ones.

Edit: And we use SyncbackPro to do the actual backups - every Sunday!

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Thanks for the info!

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Did you get anywhere with the headphones conundrum, @Rachel05 ?

Because we’ve spent money on hard drives/disc recovery programmes etc. we’re going to put this on hold for the moment and then Stuart said we’ll just have another Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro with the splitter (we’ve already got this) and see how it goes from there.

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