In my commune, people visit our little Mairie and ask them to check whatever “strange/unexpected” correspondence they’ve received.
You have said that you don’t really know why you’ve received the request for more money and they are asking you to sign to accept that you owe 1,000 which, understandably, you are loathe to do.
Our Mairie would take a look, possibly make a phone call.. and either get a clear answer there and then or be told which Office/official setup you need to visit. At least you will know whether it is kosher or a mistake
Get well soon David…health matters before all else!
Good luck with the Mairie and/or France services.
On your translation you arent by any chance using google on your phone or google chrome are you to do this? Yes it will do a translation (and likely a good one) however be a bit paranoid and dont feed anything into it you dont mind being sat on some server in the US of A. Ok the risk is pretty small but its not nil so maybe dont translate anything super private that way.
@David_Spardo if you don’t want to go to your Mairie first… then don’t go.
But whatever you do, please do not sign that paper agreeing that you owe all that money.. unless you are very sure it is correct to do so.
By the way.. are you still driving with just one good arm?
Just got back from the Mairie where I came away with the number of the AS to ring for an appointment, which is all I wanted from there. I will be signing nothing until I have clarity.
Yes, still a one handed driver, going to take a long time before I can lift that right arm I think, but I do have an ordonnance for kine so may improve sooner. Strangely, taking to sticks when walking as I do now seems to exercise that bicep gently so maybe that will help too. For a couple of days I would have been a half handed driver with my swollen left hand but was too sick to go out so neatly avoided.
(a while back we had a spate of folk signing stuff and later finding it was all a con. Took the High Court to sort that lot out, so I am on High-Alert when I hear anything the least “suspicious/unexplained” )
Back to the tax/CRDS demand. I sent a very long message last week to the woman in contact with me describing in full my situation and ending with a refusal to sign anything 'till I have received independent advice.
Then managed to get a rdv for next Thursday at the neighbouring Mairie with an Assistante Socialle. In preparation for that I have printed off no less than 8 foolscap pages of all the email, and other, exchanges between us.
Having been ‘locked out’ for the past two? weeks (I’ve lost track) because SF wouldn’t accept by old browser, it would seem that if you have a small amount of savings that takes you even slightly above the threshold you will become liable for social charges at 7.5% - but there’s another amount that isn’t clear which is for £230. I’ve paid most of it off and will be writing a letter as messages aren’t always responded to. My issue is with this additional amount and that I never received a bill or notification in the first place.
Bloody typical, I searched everywhere for this thread (well, obviously not everywhere ) and, not finding it, tacked my update of my above post onto an old thread elsewhere. Nervous about meddling further by searching and copying that post to here, before I do, perhaps @billybutcher could do it for me. I will try though in the hope that I am not too befuddled and bugger both up.
Managed it, with some difficulty, if this has worked please note @billybutcher do nowt. Except, perhaps, delete the other one, I daren’t touch any more.
*I recently (last month) received a demand to ‘reguralise’ my(our) declarations for '23 and '24 because of an anomaly.
This resulted in an exchange of emails which amounted, when printed out (admittedly large), to 12 pages of foolscap. Not getting anywhere and armed by the threat of shelling out €1555 for CRDS (social contributions), I had an interview with an Assistante Sociale yesterday.
She read every word and promised to phone the lady in Bethune and get back to me via SMS, but thought she had found the problem.
Although I have declared every penny of foreign income for 26 years with only once having been asked to pay (€79 in 2010) I naturally thought that I was doing it right. But the AS discovered one little ‘fact’ on the paperwork which said I should have been declaring in boxes 8TX and 8TQ.
She said that if I have been doing it wrong I will have to pay 50% of the above figure. So, finally getting some light into dark corners once the power cut was over I discovered all the paperwork for those 2 years.
There are no boxes numbered 8TX or 8TQ,
While I await the AS’s reply I am wondering, does anyone else use either of those, and if so, how did you find them?
Silly me, as if I would be looking at the numbers current on the 2 years in question, surely they don’t expect me in 2024 to be checking forms not yet thought 'till 2025?
Hi David, I asked your friend google and it came up with a possibility. I say possibly - as you haven’t given the breakdown of your types and source countries of your income -
According to impot, 8TX is for pensions from abroad which are subject to social charges in France. But also I got a connection with box 8TX to invalidity payments, any foreign invalidity payments received? I’m pasting in the impot link which came up on the google search for 8TX.
Do you have foreign pensions, and are they subject to social security charges? Or did anything change e.g. invalidity benefits. Because you won’t have a S1 which exempts you from france social charges, because you have a france pension, having worked there. So you haven’t ticked that box (off the top of my head it’s 8SH but it’s labelled something like ‘I I am subject to a foreign social security insurance scheme’.
My understanding is you would log the overseas sourced pensions in the usual boxes as discussed at length on the forum and in the guides posted and that should be that, i.e. correct.
Though, did anything change e.g. invalidity benefits.
If you wanted to share the boxes you use to declare the income along with their sources then people could say, yes that’s what I do, or oh, perhaps there might be an error here. Not the amounts, just which boxes for which income. And not for the last 15 years, coz the box numbers don’t change that much, perhaps just the last year, if it was the same as every other year.
Though If not the same income the and sources, over the years, if there was a change then maybe more info on that might be needed?
Thank you very much for such an informed reply. I will have a look at your link later in the day (just sitting here awaiting the porridge course of breakfast at the moment, I believe I have to get it myself ), but just a quick comment on my situation.
I worked here so no S1 and have always declared the same as a French citizen with foreign pensions when they started. The same for my wife but she died in June 2024, so just into the 2nd of those years in question. I dutifully made 2 declarations, as per the law, in that year.
Although she had a small local authority pension, I always declared all of both our various ones because I knew that we never received enough, even with the advent of my French pensions, to pay tax. So I always somewhat over declared for her without any questions raised in return. Even when I worked here, on the SMIC because it is a high unemployment area, my wages never attracted any impots.
So, all this fuss, out of the blue, is a complete mystery to me and how they arrive at the figures they have after no less than 26 years is equally mystifying.
As I say, I will read your link and report back, especially after the AS gets back in touch.
) and, not finding it, tacked my update of my above post onto an old thread elsewhere. Nervous about meddling further by searching and copying that post to here, before I do, perhaps 
Except, perhaps, delete the other one, I daren’t touch any more. 
